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Topic: Peavey Black Widow In Fender Steel King - Review & Hear |
Greg Cutshaw
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Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2009 10:36 am |
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I just posted a review and a sound file on my web site for the Fender Steel King With a Peavey Black Widow speaker. There's lots of pictures and some details on the install and before and after weights.
Steel King With Peavey Black Widow
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 7 Feb 2009 4:42 pm
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| Greg, your postings are always helpful to the steel community. Maybe you could a sample with the orginal speaker up there also. I prefer the sound of the original speaker. Funny, Airport Music is a stones throw away from me here in Buffalo. Small world. |
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Ken Byng
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Southampton, England
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Posted 8 Feb 2009 8:49 am
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Greg, one of the main criticisms of the Steel King is that the sound tends to break up at higher volume levels. Paul Franklin first raised this issue when he beta tested the FSK.
Much of this has been put down to speaker distortion by some players who think that the original speaker is not up to the job.
How does your amp stack up now with the B/W in it when playing at gig level?
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2009 10:27 am
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Ken, I think the tremendous lows of the stock steel king speaker contribute greatly to it's early breakup. If you sit the amp on the floor, and it's not right next to you, you might fail to realize just how much of the power is moving massive quantities of air.
The BW speaker seems to be missing the ultra low BOOM! although it still does the Boowah ok. I can push the BW alot harder with no breakup.
I like both speakers and wish I could have both all the time. Depending on the situation, I would like to have the BW for gigs and the stock speaker for practice. The stock speaker seems to be a bit clearer and gives the Steel King it's signature sound.
As an aside, I wanted to mention that I have two Boss RV-5 reverb units. I just noticed yesterday that one sounds really harsh with the steel and the other sounds really smooth. They are of the same vintage and both in like new condtion and I tried both with the same DanElectro Zero Hum power supply. The one that is harsher, is not harsh to the point where I would say it is defective, but it's reverb is noticeably more shrill and the tail is a bit shorter at the same settings. So maybe this explains why some people have disliked their RV-5. I put the shriller sounding one in my 6 string guitar setup and it sounds just fine there for some reason.
Greg
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Greg Cutshaw
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Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2009 10:56 am
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Kevin, I found Airport Music using Google. I am about 75 miles from the Galleria Mall using the back roads through Clymer, NY. I am only 3 miles from the NY border as the crow flies. They really hustled getting me this speaker and their shipping charges were sure super low. Just about all of my other recordings were done with the stock Fender speaker for comparision. In the studio it's easy to vary the mic placement to balance the stock speaker's highs.
Who knows, if the Steel King came with a Black Widow, and one of us tried the Fender speaker, there would be some who would rave about how much better the "new" speaker is. These are both great speakers but the sound of them is totally different. These differences are not at all subtle, but huge in your face changes in tone.
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 8 Feb 2009 11:43 am
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| I find this interesting and informative Greg as you are demonstrating through recording how different equipment effects tone. Something that some people on the Forum to recognize or can't hear. Pedals do effect tone differently also. |
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Tony Rankin
From:
Land O’ Lakes, FL
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Posted 9 Feb 2009 12:16 pm Nice Job!
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Greg,
You do a nice job on your reviews, etc. By the way, I think I prefer the tone of the Steel King using the BW. It's just more my taste.
Tony
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James Quackenbush
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Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 10 Feb 2009 9:33 am
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Greg,
Did you record this song really hot ? .....I'm not sure what it is but I'm hearing a distortion on the pedal steel .....Kinda scratchy sounding similar to a reocording that was made really "hot " .....Your recordings are usually very clear and present and this one sounded much less bright and a little on the distorted side ....Maybe it's me, but many of your recordings have been really pristine sounding and great playing too !!..... Again, it could be my ears .....Thanks, Jim |
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 10 Feb 2009 11:40 am
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Jim,
This one did peak over the limit in a few places! The Black Widow does not have anywhere near the clarity of the stock Fender speaker. It also does not have the shrill highs so I guess that's one of the trade off's between these two speakers. I did not boost the highs in the steel recording to compensate but I did boost the mids somewhat.
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