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Ron Whitfield

 

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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
Post  Posted 2 Nov 2006 11:19 am    
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Here's a rare shot of Joaquin with one of his Bigsby super laps, from '47 www.carolinacotton.org/radiotv.html
which looks much like the one in the Plainsmen pic with JM wearing the hat, from an older thread www.steelguitarforum.com/Forum2/HTML/008769.html

Was this his first Bigsby, and is/was it a dbl. 6?
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Dave Mayes

 

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Oakland, Ca.
Post  Posted 2 Nov 2006 12:38 pm    
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Hadn't checked that site in a while ... great photo !
Double 8 string Ron, the 4th & 5th tuners are mounted across the top of the headstock.
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Ron Whitfield

 

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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
Post  Posted 2 Nov 2006 1:00 pm    
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Man, I have got to get me some glasses.

How'd you know that, Dave?
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Herb Steiner

 

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Post  Posted 2 Nov 2006 2:19 pm    
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What a cool photo!!

That group is actually Andy Parker and the Plainsmen.

From left to right: George Bamby, accordion; Joaquin; Andy Parker, guitar; Red Rowe, announcer; Carolina; Charlie Morgan, guitar; Hank Caldwell, bass.

The old guy is a character actor named Harry Cheshire. You've seen him in a million movies. He wasn't part of the band.

This was a great band, vocally and instrumentally, especially when they had Harry Sims on fiddle. One of the all-time bands, IMHO.

Here's what they sounded like.

[This message was edited by Herb Steiner on 02 November 2006 at 09:42 PM.]

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Ron Whitfield

 

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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
Post  Posted 2 Nov 2006 5:20 pm    
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Thanx for IDing the group and players, Herb.

Indeed, they were top shelf for that great So. Cal style and era, along with The Riders of the Purple Sage of which both included some of the same musicians at times.
Equally rowdy and soulful musical groups.

Best shot of Bamby I've ever seen.
Wish I would have seen/heard him play while growing up in Maywood/Downey and learning (to hate) the accordion.

That cut of Columbus Stockade has been a big favorite since you put it up a couple of years ago.
Sure would like to hear more from that source.
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Jussi Huhtakangas

 

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Helsinki, Finland
Post  Posted 2 Nov 2006 10:35 pm    
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To me it looks like the front neck is either a six or seven string, but I'm just guessing...

[This message was edited by Jussi Huhtakangas on 02 November 2006 at 10:44 PM.]

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Dan Sawyer

 

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Studio City, California, USA
Post  Posted 3 Nov 2006 1:12 am    
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Ron, if you click on that photo, it will enlarge and you should be able to see the guitar better.
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chas smith R.I.P.


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Encino, CA, USA
Post  Posted 3 Nov 2006 8:57 am    
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If you look real close, the front neck has 8 strings, I counted the strings thru body holes and the bridge divisions, because the 1st string hole is barely visible.

[This message was edited by chas smith on 03 November 2006 at 09:00 AM.]

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Ron Whitfield

 

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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
Post  Posted 3 Nov 2006 11:31 am    
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Thanx Dan, but I'm not quite that daft or blind yet, just couldn't make out the 2 tuners on the end of the headstock, and was curious if Dave had more info on the matter.

Chas, I counted what I thot were 8 strings/slots on the front, but the hardware didn't seem to match up exactly.

[This message was edited by Ron Whitfield on 03 November 2006 at 03:22 PM.]

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Dave Mayes

 

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Oakland, Ca.
Post  Posted 3 Nov 2006 12:35 pm    
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Ron, I've seen a couple of videos and a plainsmen photo (cover of some sort of C&W mag )offered on eBay a while back)where it was very clear that Murph's steel was a D8 with the goofy tuner placement.

Video might have been "Melody Stampede" - maybe. Jimmy Dodd was in it.

Herb S. might know. Herb ?
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Ron Whitfield

 

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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
Post  Posted 3 Nov 2006 3:25 pm    
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I appreciate the update, Dave, and I hope I'll see some of what you mentioned.

Did it look like an after purchase mod on each neck?
That may account for what I percieved as a diffence in tail pieces.

And this next pic by Chas is just bizzare.

[This message was edited by Ron Whitfield on 04 November 2006 at 11:17 AM.]

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chas smith R.I.P.


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Encino, CA, USA
Post  Posted 3 Nov 2006 6:50 pm    
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I know this is the no peddler section, but have you seen this one?
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Jussi Huhtakangas

 

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Helsinki, Finland
Post  Posted 4 Nov 2006 2:15 am    
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Cool Chas, the expression on his face kinda says that he really wasn't happy with that one. Wonder whatever happened to that one.
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Jeff Strouse


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Jacksonville, Florida, USA
Post  Posted 4 Nov 2006 6:02 am    
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I think he's taking a quick nap before his solo...
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John McGann

 

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Post  Posted 4 Nov 2006 8:33 am    
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He's mad because somebody moved the tuning machines to the wrong end of the guitar during the break.

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Encino, CA, USA
Post  Posted 4 Nov 2006 9:42 am    
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The story I heard was that he had a lot of trouble putting the pedal rods on and setting it up. He wasn't as adept at the mechanical aspects as he was with the musical aspects.

Then there was the last guitar:

[This message was edited by chas smith on 04 November 2006 at 09:48 AM.]

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