peterson stroboflip tuner settings

Alex Piazza · From: Arkansas, USA

I just got a peterson stroboflip. Its got two settings already programed into it for e9. se9 and 0e9. Are any of the two close to the newman tunning? Are there others programed in there that I havnt found. Also Id also like to get some input on what settings you guys are using. Thanks

Jim Manley · From: bremerton Washington, USA

I am fairly new with my strobe flip tuner,but i did some fine reading of the manual and my interpetation is that tha 0e9 means open or everything at 440.I could be wrong but i believe that the newman presets are at the se9 setting.i have tuned to the se9 and then manually set the tuner and tuned to the newman chart and seen no differance,i also compared the se9 setting with a boss tu15 and was pretty close.
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Ronald Sikes · From: Corsicana, Tx

Newman settings are SE9.
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Rick Smith · From: Bowie Tx

Not all steels are the same. I found that my steel (Rains) has less cabinet drop than Newmans, What I did is tune my E's to 440 and press A&B down and see how much drop your steel has. Then do the math and program my own settings in the Peterson. I would also like to see others that have came up with there own settings and post them on the Forum with the name of the Guitar and settings. I will post my settings soon.

Alex Piazza · From: Arkansas, USA

how can you determine cabinet drop? Im not even sure what that is.

Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

I use a modified Newman chart for my Franklin, (the original chart that is referenced to 440, not the newer one). I tune the E's on the E9th neck to plus 2 cents as a slight compromise for "cabinet drop" (string detuning when another pedal is pressed).

I also tune some of the other E9th strings different than the Newman chart and thus use the "Temperment" memories for my settings. On the C6th neck, I'm mostly on with the Newman settings. The one change on the C6th neck is that I tune the low C (10th string) to minus 8 cents rather than minus 16 cents that the Newman chart calls for.

David Nugent · From: Gum Spring, Va.

Alex...Cabinet drop is caused by the stress on the cabinet from engaging a pedal and/or knee lever and can be determined by first tuning your guitar open and then depressing the pedal(s)or levers. Next check any strings not being affected by the pedals or knees and see how far the tuning has changed. You can then modify your tuner settings accordingly.

Don Sulesky · From: Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH

Here is my copedant and Strobo-Flip numbers and also how to program the unit.
I use these numbers for both my ShoBud Super Pro and Emmons LeGrande II.
I use the sweeten #'s not the temperment #'s and both of my steels are in tune.
I've never had a comment that it wasn't by any of those who sat at my steel and played it.
Don

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/dsulesky/E9&C6tunings.htm

Tony Glassman · From: The Great Northwest

http://www.petersontuners.com/forum/post.asp?method=Reply&TOPIC_ID=1929&FORUM_ID=2

scroll down to John Norris'post (he's a Peterson rep)

Greg Cutshaw · From: Corry, PA, USA

I use the 0E9th settings on the SF tuner with my MSA. On my Sho-Bud I used the SE9 setting. To my ear they both sound very close to the Newman tempered presets. The SE9 in fact seem to be the Newman presets. The 0E9 to my ear, seem to have the same temper, but are just shifted across the board. Of course with some empirical work this could be proven and there have been other posts that have addressed this.

Here's my settings. Note that I adjust the 0E9 settings in a few places for my MSA. I also slant the bar or move it beween the frets or vary the top or bottom bar pressure to make certain combinations sound in tune.

My Tuning

Greg

Alex Piazza · From: Arkansas, USA

you were right. I tuned my pro-1 to the se9 open. When I pressed the ab pedals down all of my strings went a tad bit flat. I geuss ive learned what cabinet drop is. Thanks for the help. Im assuming that the se9 is the one for me to use do to this cab drop? It sounds good to my ears. Although you never can really tell until you play with the band.

Alex Piazza · From: Arkansas, USA

One more question. Should I tune with the AB pedals pressed?

Don Sulesky · From: Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH

Yes,when tuning your AB pedals they should be pressed so as to be in tune when used together.

Paddy Long · From: Christchurch, New Zealand

Alex just to clarify ..both the OE9 and the SE9 settings have the newman type offsets. OE9 has the E's set to 440, and the SE9 has the E's set to about 442.
There is a chart in the handbook which tells you what each note is offset to (or not) for both of these tempered settings. Then there are the areas where you can programme your own settings if you so wish.

Roy McKinney · From: Ontario, OR

What do the uni 12 players use for setup tuning? Anybody have a setup they would care to share?

David Doggett · Posted 25 Jun 2008 10:34 am

I don't have a Peterson. For my unis I use a Boss TU12. I have raises on the bottom strings mostly the same as on the strings an octave above. These heavier strings introduce a little more cabinet drop in a uni than in an S10 of the same brand. Therefore, I split the difference on the cabinet drop between the open strings with no pedals, and AB pedals down position. So I tune my Es to 441, then tune the other open strings by ear to something similar to the Newman chart. If I can't hear, and have to watch a meter, I would tune all strings to 441, but 2, 3, 6 and 10 to 438. When the A and B pedals are down, the As come out around 439. So my roots are within 1 Hz (4 cents) of 440 with the pedals up or down. Basically, by ear or with a meter, the extra low strings are tuned the same as the strings above, for both the open strings and pedal and lever stops.

I tune all the pedal and lever stops by ear using previously tuned open strings as references. That also comes out very close to most of the Newman settings, but not all. Some of his settings are puzzling to me.

In the B6 mode everything seems to work out fine, and those pedal stops are tuned by ear.

One refinement that I found necessary for a uni is to fine tune the lowest strings with the bar at the 8th fret. Bar pressure seems to make those lowest strings go a little sharp. So whatever sounds perfect, or is perfect by the meter, at the nut, needs a little tweaking with the bar near the center of the playing area.

[Oops. Edited to say bar pressure seems to make those lowest strings go a little sharp, not flat.]

rodger_mcbride · From: Minnesota

I found one of Jeff Newman's Universal tuning charts with the Hz offsets and used the cents to Hz converter buried somewhere on the Peterson site to program the S (Sweetener) programable settings to the Jeff Newman chart. Works well (close) enough. By going through the whole programming process, you can learn how to tweak the offsets to your ear's liking. I use 3 of the (S) programs and allow for the open notes to be "open" at their original open chord offset and the note I am tuning to be programmed individually., ie, using 3 different C# tuning offsets, depending on the pedal or lever change
I, too, have to adjust the lower 2 or 3 (mostly 11 & 12) strings a hair flat at the 10th fret to sound right. I thought it was the guitar or maybe some physics thing with the rollers or changer vs string gauges going on. They are pretty thick...
rodger

Paddy Long · From: Christchurch, New Zealand

Hey Roy the new StroboRack tuner has got a tempered preset for the Uni 12, in additon to the 2 E9th and 1 C6th setting !!

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