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Topic: Newbie question about D-12 |
Darryl Hattenhauer
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Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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Posted 2 Jun 2008 2:51 pm |
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I've been cruising the forum for info about D-12s. Is a D-12 simply two additional low strings per neck on a standard D-10 copedant? In other words, could you play the high ten strings with a standard set-up and learn the additional four strings later?
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Rich Currier
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Woodland Park, CO USA
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Posted 3 Jun 2008 8:23 am
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Darryl,
I've been playing my MSA D-12 for about 4 years now & anymore, it's difficult for me to play a D-10...
The E9th neck has 2 extra lower strings, but the C6th has 2 higher. As a result, I orient my right hand for any given grip that's different than on a D-10. Not a problem on the E9th, but on the C6th, I'm a couple of strings off when I switch to the D10.
Also, my string spacing is closer on the D-12, so I'm used to a tighter grip. On a D-10, I will occasionally miss a string because of it. It's not impossible to correct, but I play a D-10 so infrequently that it happens to me a lot...
In my opinion, you can certainly learn to play the new strings later on. Don't wait too long, though, they can add more than you think...
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 3 Jun 2008 9:04 am Re: Newbie question about D-12
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| Darryl Hattenhauer wrote: |
| Is a D-12 simply two additional low strings per neck on a standard D-10 copedant? In other words, could you play the high ten strings with a standard set-up and learn the additional four strings later? |
You can tune it any way you like. Check out the tunings that b0b has posted on this Forum, or actually on b0b.com at
http://b0b.com/tunings/index.html
Most 12 string E9 tunings are like the common 10 string E9, but with 2 low strings added. Some guys find it easy to go back and forth between the two. But I find it very hard. |
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Darryl Hattenhauer
From:
Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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Posted 3 Jun 2008 9:13 am
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Thanks, Rich. Now I see why a lot of people find D-12s too difficult. The closer string spacing would be a problem for me because I have fat fingers. And the C6th would really be an adjustment. Now I see why there is a lot of discussion about setting up the C6th in different ways.
But I can also see why some players think a D-12 is good to start on. You'd have no adjustment from a D-10, and you could learn the standard ten on each neck first, and later you'd have a lot of variation with the 12 strings on each neck.
For me, carrying it would be no problem because I never play out (in accordance with Arizona's noise abatement laws).
Earnest,
Thanks for the tip on the tunings. If I played out (I really can't even play in) I think I'd get a U-12 like bOb's Sierra. |
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Rich Currier
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Woodland Park, CO USA
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Posted 3 Jun 2008 10:01 am
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Darryl,
B0B & Earnest are quite correct in that you can tune these things any way you want. I believe mine is set up as a factory MSA default.
Your issue is probably more the right hand spacing. My mother used to tell me I had a pianist's hands (long & slender fingers). Great, I guess, on a D-12, but much less advantageous in an impromptu bar fight.
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Darryl Hattenhauer
From:
Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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Posted 3 Jun 2008 2:15 pm
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| Hah! I'd never lose a bar fight. I always wear running shoes. |
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Michael Dulin
From:
Indiana, USA
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Posted 5 Jun 2008 11:45 am newbie question about double 12
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Not all 12 strings have closer spacing. I have 2, a
Sho-Bud and a Zum... neither one has closer spacing.
I've never seen one that did actually. MD |
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Darryl Hattenhauer
From:
Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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Posted 5 Jun 2008 12:04 pm
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Thanks Michael. I will save this info for reference because I just might get a D12 someday.
Does anybody know if all Sho-Bud D-12s have the same spacing? |
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