Speaker replacement

Jim Strawser · From: Montana, USA

I am about to replace the two 12" Marsland speakers in the Vintage 80's Traynor Solid State amplifier I bought cheaply. I have gotten replys from Emminence, Celestion and Weber(nice man). I will be using this amp at home and may never gig with it. Its 120 watts. The back of the cab says 4 OHM speakers minimum. I'll be playing a cheap 6 string lap steel but occasionaly a Strat, Tele and LP standard(all clones). I am tempted to go with Webers, but would like some opinions from those who have either built their amps or replaced speakers in an amplifiers. Thanks Folks
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"Steel players are like fine wine, we get better with age"

Jim Sliff · From: Lawndale California, USA

I recommend Weber's speakers without reservation, and I have all 3 brands you mentioned in various amp or cabs. Ted's speakers are outstanding and hi service is second to none - you're not going to call Celestion or Eminence and get the chief engineer on the phone who can explain things in guitar-amp terms.

Ted and his son (who actually owns the place) have revolutionized the guitar-amp speaker industry. The one thing they have not concentrated on are high-power (200+ watt) steel amp speakers, but are working on it now. That will either have Peavey a little scared, or, if they are smart, working a deal with Weber to install the new models in their amps.

Big amp companies did not use Weber speakers simply for insurance reasons - Weber was not a gigantic company and could not carry the kind of product liability insurance Fender or Peavey (or Marshall, Line 6, etc) needed from every supplier. That's been overcome and I think you'll start seeing Webers in certain high-end amps or as an option from each major manufacturer.
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No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional

David L. Donald · From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

I just ordered 4- 10" Webers for my '59 Bassman clone.

I had seen 2 possibles, but Ted pointed me to
a better AND slightly 'cheaper' choice. $5 less each.
H
e could have pointed to $50 each more expensive ones
as easily... But it was the right choice for the sound
I described to him by email. He would rather have
happy return customers and good word of mouth referals.

Having some of his transformers in an amp I built,
I had no doubt he would pick a good speaker for me.

If you tell Ted what sound you want he will
pick a speaker for you, and he knows his business.
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DLD, Chili farmer. Plus bananas and papaya too.

Real happiness has no strings attached.
But pedal steels have many!

Jim Sliff · From: Lawndale California, USA

David brought up one of the most important things - call Ted, and he will recommend the RIGHT speaker...NOT the most expensive! I've even had him recommend ANOTHER company's speaker for a specific application - he just thought it was the best choice.

Find another manufacturer that will do that!
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No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional

David L. Donald · From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

One thing with Weber at the moment.
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They have had bad problems with AT&T
not blocking autodial phone advertising,
so they don't answer the phones if they don't
see a caller ID THEY KNOW.

IT AIN'T YOU, it's a reaction to harrasment.
Ted has repeatedly signed for no advertising
being allowed, but AT&T seems to drop the ball blocking the stuff.

So leave a message and you email etc,
they will get back to you.

And they have ALSO had bad problems with email
and server hyjackings by spammers.

A bad confluence of media problems for one company to carry.

Keep trying they have good products,
and are nice people with a good rep.
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DLD, Chili farmer. Plus bananas and papaya too.

Real happiness has no strings attached.
But pedal steels have many!

Jim Strawser · From: Montana, USA

I've exchanged a number of emails with Ted, and your right, he explains things in terms a layman can understand and recommended the speakers I needed for both lap steel and guitar. Yep, Emminence, Celestion and Peavey best be scared cause Ted believes in the word "Service". I'll be purchasing two speakers from him soon!!
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"Steel players are like fine wine, we get better with age"

Jim Sliff · From: Lawndale California, USA

Actually, none of those guys are "scared" - Peavey because there are hundreds of their guitar amps with his speakers in them (as replacements, and I think you can special-order them in a new amp); Eminence because they actually work together on a few things (Eminence makes some of the Signature line parts - that keeps the price down) and Ted often recommends their speakers; Celestion again because Ted ill have no reservations about recommending things like Greenbacks or their high-powered bass speakers (something he does not make - yet).

I've never met a guy who was so well-liked by the "competition". I think part of the reason is he and his son really got the specialized replacement speaker business going full-speed; otherwise I doubt you would have seen things like the Eminence Legends and Copperheads; The reissue Celestions; Tone Tubbys, Mojo going beyond just relabeling stock Eminence replacements, etc. Others like Gerald Weber (no relation) had marketed "boutique" speakers before Ted & Ted, but they really built the market IMO. I recall years ago when they stared with simply Jensen clones using Jensen part numbers (which they stopped when an Italian company bought rights to the names) because no one else was making them, and reconing including remagging, which nobody did. They filled a hole at just the right time and were honest and ethical. That's not to say they don't have a speaker go bad - but if they do, they make it right with no hassles.

Ted even helped me fix the voice coils of a couple vintage speakers myself when I sent in a request for either a recone or a recommendation for replacement. Again, there are just not many people in business who will do that kind of thing. It'll be real interesting to see what happens if they do finish developing high-power speakers for steel.
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No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional

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