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Topic: settins - i put a quarter under mine |
Lavelle Pierce
From: huntsvile,ar 72740
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Posted 23 Apr 2008 9:38 am
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gary carpenter what is the close to the S-10 rains.strings' i put a quarter under mine that is close i can ajust. is that right thanks. |
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Roger Francis
From: kokomo,Indiana, USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2008 11:14 am
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I asume your talking about pickup highth from strings to Pup. Gary told me, on the ones with the 705 Pup it was 2 quarters (money)If it's a GL Pup it's about one quarter. |
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Lavelle Pierce
From: huntsvile,ar 72740
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Posted 23 Apr 2008 12:12 pm pick up
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Roger Francis wrote: |
I asume your talking about pickup highth from strings to Pup. Gary told me, on the ones with the 705 Pup it was 2 quarters (money)If it's a GL Pup it's about one quarter. |
roger mine ia a george P-1 rains steelguitar |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 23 Apr 2008 1:35 pm
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A general rule of thumb is to use the thickness of two 25-cent pieces (quarters) if the pickup pole-pieces are exposed (like a Lawrence 710), and at least the thickness of one 25-cent piece if the pole-pieces aren't visible (like a George-L E66). Most people agree it's better to have more clearance than suggested than it is to have less clearance than is suggested.
Some pickups are mounted on springs or sponge rubber so that you can actually push them down (gently, with the left hand) while picking with your right hand. That lets you instantly hear the difference it makes. Depending on the guitar, amp and pickups, the change can be anywhere from "very significant" to "hardly noticeable". |
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Roger Francis
From: kokomo,Indiana, USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2008 2:22 pm
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Lavelle, your pickup is the George L PF-1, which is the same one i had on my Rains, i had mine set about 1 quarter (money) or maybe a little more, i don't remeber exactly, but i know it wasn't 2 quarters. Donnie explained it well as a general rule for PUs. |
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Lavelle Pierce
From: huntsvile,ar 72740
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Posted 23 Apr 2008 3:12 pm
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Roger Francis wrote: |
Lavelle, your pickup is the George L PF-1, which is the same one i had on my Rains, i had mine set about 1 quarter (money) or maybe a little more, i don't remeber exactly, but i know it wasn't 2 quarters. Donnie explained it well as a general rule for PUs. |
thanks roger i am going to try now. did he say just drop it down a little and press down ? |
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Roger Francis
From: kokomo,Indiana, USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2008 5:11 pm
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Lavelle, raise or lower your PU with the three screws on the top of your neck untill you get the rite distance at both ends, and check to see if it's level and you should be good, i don't know of any thing else you should have to do. I would make the quarter a loose fit. |
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Mitch Adelman
From: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 24 Apr 2008 7:05 am
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I have found the sweet spot with george L's (10-1 or SS anyway) with about 1 1/2 quarters at the high strings and a tiny bit more at the bass end. Brings out the string separation and clarity better than a quarter where I found it more overdriven and mushy! |
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Jim Sliff
From: Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 25 Apr 2008 4:42 am
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The "sweet spot" will vary quite a bit (a be different for each player's tonal preferences) depending on the type of strings (and brand) that you use. The reaction between string and pickup is an electromagnetic one, and is different for stainless and nickel; also he type of wind and your particular attack affect the distance. The most important...usually...is the magnetic strength of the pickup itself; if the magnetic "pull" is strong, it can kill sustain unless you widen the distance...but too far and you lose signal.
Even the same pickup model will vary slightly (in some cases significantly). As mentioned earlier, testing the guitar by pressing the pickup down (starting very close to the strings) is the only really valid method - anything else is pure speculation, no matter what a pickup or guitar manufacturer says. If yours is not spring (or foam) backed it's a tougher task, but still the only way to really know what's right for you and your guitar. _________________ No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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Roger Francis
From: kokomo,Indiana, USA
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Posted 25 Apr 2008 7:10 am
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He can't press on the pickup because it's not mounted on springs, it's mounted on a solid plate and the springs are between the plate and the bottom of the neck, he will have to raise or lower to get the distance he wants with the three screws, at least thats how my Rains is built. |
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Jim Sliff
From: Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 25 Apr 2008 4:49 pm
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As I said, it might be a tougher task - but it's still the best way to go.
Older Fenders and some humbucking rings on 6-strings are set with 4 screws...it's still not that difficult. _________________ No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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