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Shannon Cooke


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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 7 Apr 2008 8:37 pm    
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I have a split tuning on my 6th string (G#-F#). I tune open then the raise, then raise and lower, and finally the lower.(with set screw) Everytime I tune the lower instead of being a little flat it is a half step sharp and will not go the whole tone down to the F#. Could this be a travel issue? It's a fairly new guitar and this is the first time I have changed the 6th string. Can anyone help?
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Dan Beller-McKenna


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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 8 Apr 2008 1:15 am    
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I think you are supposed to tune the full lower with the set screw before tuning the combined raise+lower (i.e. the split) at the changer, at least that's what I do on my sixth string split.

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Jack Dougherty


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Spring Hill, Florida, USA
Post  Posted 8 Apr 2008 3:18 am    
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Try tuning the split first with the end nut then the lower with the set screw
Normally the string will come back flat then is raised by the screw.

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Chris Tarrow


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Maplewood, NJ
Post  Posted 8 Apr 2008 9:14 am    
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I have that split, and cannot make it work with a wound 6th string, have to use a plain string, could solve your problem?
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Bill Dobkins


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Rolla Missouri, USA
Post  Posted 8 Apr 2008 12:24 pm    
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The way i understand it, you tune the split with the nylon tuner with pedals down. Pedals up and tune your full lower with the allen screw on the end. Good luck.
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Shannon Cooke


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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 8 Apr 2008 6:16 pm    
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Might also say that this pull also raises 1st string to G#. Any MSA experts out there!!
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Shannon Cooke


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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 8 Apr 2008 6:19 pm    
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Another question, where should the set screw be set prior to adjusting?
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Paddy Long


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Christchurch, New Zealand
Post  Posted 10 Apr 2008 1:57 pm    
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Here is the correct procedure - direct from the Zum handbook !!! Hope this helps clarify things for you.


Split Tuning Option
Guitars equipped with this option allow you to obtain a “combination or middle” note on strings that are raised a full tone and lowered a half tone, or vice-versa. The tuning procedure for each string that is affected is as follows:

1. Tune the string to its open-tuning pitch with the Tuning Keys as described in Basic Tuning.
2. Tune the “raise” note with the Nylon Nut as per the Basic Tuning procedure.
3. Engage both the “raise” and “lower” functions by pressing the proper pedal/knee lever combination at the same time.
4. Tune the “resultant/middle” note with the Nylon Nut that lowers the string, turning clockwise to flatten it or counter-clockwise to sharpen it.
5. With only the single pedal/knee levers that lowers the string engaged, tune the “lower” note with the Set Screw in the end of the neck, right side, behind the Changer Finger for that string.

Note: If the string you are tuning has a “Blue Nylon Nut”, use this nut instead of the “Set Screw” as described in Step 5 above.
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Archie Nicol R.I.P.


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Post  Posted 10 Apr 2008 4:47 pm    
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If you have a modern MSA, Johnny Cox may be able to give advice. Johnny no longer works for MSA, but I'm sure he won't mind helping a fellow forum member.

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Shannon Cooke


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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 11 Apr 2008 5:22 pm    
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Thanks for all the help guys. Turns out it was a string problem!(thank goodness) My IQ dropped a few points during this ordeal.
thanks again,
shannon
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