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George Plemons

 

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Post  Posted 23 Mar 2008 4:46 pm    
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In this new genre of "Texas Music" I have noticed a lot of really cool steel on some of the newer songs being played on the texas stations. The latest Kevin Fowler song and others have got nice steel standing out on them.. I know Lloyd Maines is doing a lot of this work and I am wondering the Austin guys are doing a lot of it (Dettamore, Rick Price, Rheinhard and the other killers down there)? It seems to be a well kept secret but these guys are doing some fabulous work and need to be recognized. I know the Nashville people are probably not familiar with this but the country fans in texas certainly are.
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Ray Jenkins


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Post  Posted 23 Mar 2008 5:05 pm    
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Way too go George,I like the way you seperated the "term" Texas Music,not country music.People ask me if I play country music.I tell them no,I can't stand country music,I play Texas Music.
By the way how are things in Corsicana.I attented Navarrow Jr. College in 1957,after I graduated from Dawson High,lots of fun in that part of the country.
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LJ Eiffert

 

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Post  Posted 23 Mar 2008 5:11 pm    
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Hey Ray,If I play Louisiana Music in California, what dose that make me?,when I'm Texas proud. Leo J.Eiffert,Jr.& Pigeons Band Flying
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George Plemons

 

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Post  Posted 23 Mar 2008 5:16 pm    
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Hey Ray I went to Navarro Jr college myself and live only 8 miles from Dawson now. I have two daughters going to Navarro college now..I am glad to hear you are playing some of the good new texas music out there. I am old foggy but, I am enjoying playing a lot of this new texas music and it seems to be trending even more to the old traditional stuff with some of the great steel playing I have been hearing lately. I hope some of the guys recording for some of these lesser know artist chime in or some body who keeps up with who's playing on what down here will give us a run down on who is playing some of these songs that have just come out.
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Ray Jenkins


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Post  Posted 23 Mar 2008 5:41 pm    
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Leo I'm not cutting the music anybody plays,I don't care for top fourty stuff and it is now called country.Love dem ca-jun musics doe.
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Eric Corgey


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Post  Posted 23 Mar 2008 6:29 pm    
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Hey George....sorry I missed you in DFW last weekend, but I couldn't drag myself away from the show since it was the first one I've ever attended. I should be coming back up there soon and I'll check withMark to see where ya'll are playin. Your right on about Texas music. It's different and it's GOOD. I saw Rick Price playing with Jake Hooker a couple of months ago in Tomball and was really impressed. Very, very professional group..4 pieces and a ton of sound.
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Jody Sanders

 

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Magnolia,Texas, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 23 Mar 2008 6:29 pm    
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The Lonely Road Band( I am the steel player) plays Texas Country and Traditional Country. Mostly Texas Country. Jody.
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Jody Sanders

 

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Post  Posted 23 Mar 2008 6:38 pm    
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George, you are so right. Austin and San Antonio are a "hot bed" of great steel players. Saw Rick Price recently with Jake Hooker and he was excellent. Jody.
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Gary Carriger

 

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Victoria, Texas
Post  Posted 23 Mar 2008 6:52 pm    
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I could be wrong but I think George means the newer singers / bands that basically are doing the own music...insert "orginal" here. For instance Kevin Fowler, Charlie and Bruce Robison, Randy Rogers, Jarod Birmingham, Eleven Hundred Springs, etc. They aren't classic country, but good nonetheless. I'm not an expert on who's playing all the steel parts on these records, but know that Lloyd Maines, Marty Muse, and Tommy Detamore are covering their share...and doing a damn fine job of it too.
Gary
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George Plemons

 

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Post  Posted 23 Mar 2008 7:13 pm    
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Well, there are a couple of texas music types and both are good but, yes Gary is right I was talking about the new wave of Texas artist that I guess was started mostly by the Pat Green craze but has grown in to an industry of its own over the last few years. It seemed to be more folkish at first but has grown into some nice recordings. I have noticed Tommy Detamore's name on some as well as Lloyd Maines and I would bet Steve Palousek is doing a lot as well.
ERIC, sorry you couldn't make it but there was probably a couple of good steel players to listen to in Dallas (hee hee) so I will forgive you on this one.
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Jody Sanders

 

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Post  Posted 23 Mar 2008 8:19 pm    
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Gary, we have opened for several of these Texas Singers including : Randy Rogers, Kevin Fowler, Charlie Robinson, Zona Jones. All good guys. Jody.
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David Kurrasch


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Royse City, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 23 Mar 2008 8:20 pm    
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Hi George,
I just finished up a new album with Aaron Watson. As soon as it is released, (about 1 week from now) I'll post some of the songs that I played on on my website: http://davidkurrasch.com/
Lloyd Maines also played on the album, as did many of the members of Asleep at the Wheel. Ray Benson was the producer.
I've been playing with Aaron for almost 2 years now, and I've had the opportunity to work with a lot of the other "Texas" bands.
I agree with you that Kevin Fowler has some great steel on his albums. His road player, Arty Passes is a great player, and a great guy as well. If I'm not mistaken though, his latest was done in Nashville, with all Nashville players. I think Steve Hinson was the steel player. I think Tommy Detamore and Marty Muse played on his other albums.
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Steve Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 24 Mar 2008 3:14 am    
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...guilty...
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George Plemons

 

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Corsicana, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 24 Mar 2008 7:16 am    
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Steve Hinson, there you are again! I had no idea. Very nice work once again.
David it sounds like your career continues to bloom and I did not know you were with Aaron Watson, he is another of the new "Texas" guys doing well. Not bad, working with Ray and the boys. Keep it going Dave, you are one of the up and coming stars in this business.
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Arty Passes

 

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Austin, TX
Post  Posted 24 Mar 2008 9:05 am    
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...and a fine job you did Steve. I look forward to meeting so you can show me the right way to play that opening lick on "Me and the Boys"!
thanks for the kind words, David - I always enjoy catching you with Aaron, not often enough.
You're partially right, Ray, it's Texas Music, but it is country, and it is lots of other things too. Aaron and the boys are on the traditional side, we have our rock moments and country moments and the other bands on the scene span the spectrum. There's a refreshing originality in the scene that makes it hard to categorize. Fans are very open minded and appreciative.
Lots of bands include some steel on recordings, but not all carry steel on the road, unfortunately.
Been a while, George, Gary, Jody!
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George Plemons

 

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Corsicana, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 24 Mar 2008 10:11 am    
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Hey Arty, good to see you on the forum again, it has been to long. I saw a couple of weeks ago you guys were playing in Mexia at the Cowboy club and I wanted to get out to see you but I had a gig in Ft. Worth that weekend, but hey we will cross paths again soon I'm sure. Keep up the good work out there. Heck, Steve may as well tell us all how to play that lick so we can get it right when we play it out in the boonies!
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Joe Miraglia


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Post  Posted 24 Mar 2008 11:24 am    
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So bOb won't Close this topic. Must be Billy played a steel guitar Joe
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Joe Miraglia


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Post  Posted 24 Mar 2008 11:57 am    
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sorry wrong topic,I was going to post the topic Be Extra carefull the post about guns Embarassed Joe
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Duane Reese

 

Post  Posted 24 Mar 2008 1:47 pm    
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I'll tell you what, I think that Eleven-Hundred Springs is one of those bands that really stands out in that part of Texas as country. I saw them when I played at Farmfest up by Vernon last fall (I was in Due South) and man, they just put a smile on my face! Can't remember the steel player's name but he was good.

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Danny Crelin


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Wylie, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 24 Mar 2008 5:05 pm    
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Duane

Here's my shameless self plug. It was me at farmfest wit Eleven Hundred Springs. The new cd will be released on May 6th. Check out our website for more info.

www.1100springs.com

Glad we were able to put a smile on your face and thanks for the kind words.

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Steve Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 24 Mar 2008 5:13 pm    
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George and Arty-thanks for the kind words!Re the lick on"Me and the Boys"...I don't recall what I played...but if I played it,it can't be very hard...
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Duane Reese

 

Post  Posted 25 Mar 2008 9:27 am    
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Landon Dodd

 

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Fort Worth, TX
Post  Posted 25 Mar 2008 8:14 pm     Enough is Enough
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Seems to me that most of the Top 40 "Country" and some of the "Texas Country" is bad Rock n' Roll. I don't have anything against some Rock n' Roll now and again but just call it what it is. If I hear one more "Tx" artist sing about tacos, I-35 and a college road trip I may subscribe to XM. Ok I already did. LD
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David Kurrasch


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Royse City, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 25 Mar 2008 9:57 pm    
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Thanks for the words of encouragement George. I'm having a great time, and feel lucky to get to work with such fine players.

Here's a site where you can preview Aaron Watson's new album: http://lonestarmusic.com/album.asp?aid=4505

Anyone interested can check my site after the 1st, and I'll put up some complete songs
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Chris Schlotzhauer


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Colleyville, Tx. USA
Post  Posted 26 Mar 2008 6:45 am    
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I've made a career out of the Texas Music scene. I got into country music in the early 70's through Jerry Jeff, Ray Wylie, BW Stevenson, etc.
In the late 80's I took a gig with Tommy Alverson here in Ft Worth. At that time, the "scene" was reviving through a local public radio station in Dallas, KNON. They had a 3 hour slot every day (still do) that was playing the old Texas music. There was a resurgence of the genre and by early 90's the huge acts around the state were Gary P. Nunn, Ray Wylie Hubbard, Jerry Jeff Walker, Joe Ely, and Rusty Wier.
Robert Earl Keen came out with his "Live at Sons of Hermann" album around '92 and all hell broke loose. A young kid here in Dallas named Jack Ingraham was packing the clubs with college kids. Jack was doing covers of REK and Steve Earl and a few originals.
I was playing a gig in Dallas with Chris Wall and a young kid came up to me, handed me a CD and said he wanted me to play with him. It was Pat Green. The CD was produced and for the most part, performed by Lloyd Maines.
Lloyd got so busy producing the kids influenced by PG, he was overwhelmed. Lloyd would call me and turn me on to gigs he couldn't do. The scene has kept me very busy for the last 18 years.
I will say, back in the day, the genre was more country than not. Even Pat and Jack used steel and fiddle. Not so much anymore. Like stated above, it's become bad rock and roll. Especially the Red Dirt bands.
There are still a few country acts within the genre that are trying to stay true to Texas country, like Eleven Hundred Springs, Derailers, Kevin Fowler, Jason Boland, Aaron Watson, Dale Watson, Tommy Alverson, etc, but those are the minority.
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