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Brandon Bankes


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Zanesville, Ohio
Post  Posted 19 Mar 2008 6:22 am    
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Hi there, I've got a 77' Emmons SD steel that was my grandfathers. To make a long story short, I was attempting to replace to control panel and ended up tearing off two-three wires (which I dont know where they came from) I have to specify that the pickup is a George L, although I dont know the model. I called down at my local music shop and they told me to bring it down, although they werent completely sure they can fix it without a schematic or anything. what are my options? Should I...

A) Have them try and re-connect the on/off switch, and the tone control like it was before, or,
B) Have them wire the pickup straight to the input jack, completely doing without the on/off switch and tone control. I dont know what the tone would be like though. Has anyone gone this way?

Thanks for your help guys, I'm new at this and not sure what I'm doing
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John Billings


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 19 Mar 2008 7:31 am    
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I'd go down to Radio Crack and get a set of alligator clip jumper wires, and then start tryin' out different connections. You can't hurt anything as there's virtually no voltage to speak of.
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John Billings


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 19 Mar 2008 7:46 am    
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Brandon, try here:
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=128573
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 19 Mar 2008 8:25 am     Re: In some serious need for advice!!!!!!!!!
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Brandon Bankes wrote:
I called down at my local music shop and they told me to bring it down, although they werent completely sure they can fix it without a schematic or anything. what are my options?


The first thing you should do is NOT take it to your local music store!!!!
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Brandon Bankes


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Zanesville, Ohio
Post  Posted 19 Mar 2008 8:33 am    
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Thanks for the diagram... the reason I need to take it down is becuase I dont have the tools or knowledge to do it. Theres a guy that has worked on guitars for 30 years... I figure he knows what hes doing, especially with a simple pickup wiring diagram. Is there something I'm missing?

Thanks again guys
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Rocky Hill


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Prairie Village,Kansas, USA
Post  Posted 19 Mar 2008 9:22 am    
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Brandon Bankes wrote:
Thanks for the diagram... the reason I need to take it down is becuase I dont have the tools or knowledge to do it. Theres a guy that has worked on guitars for 30 years... I figure he knows what hes doing, especially with a simple pickup wiring diagram. Is there something I'm missing?

Thanks again guys



The only you will be missing is cash out of your pocket for something that you should absolutely have no problems fixing yourself. Mentioned above, get some jumper wires and figure out where they go, You can't hurt anything, and you sure don't need 30 years of guitar repair experience to solder three wires back on.


Rocky
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Marvin Born

 

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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 19 Mar 2008 11:23 am    
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Brandon

Where in Ohio are you located? Close to Columbus?

If you live close enough to bring it to me, I will fix it for you.





Marvin
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Brandon Bankes


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Zanesville, Ohio
Post  Posted 19 Mar 2008 6:53 pm    
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Marvin, sorry, I dont.. I live in Athens which is a pretty far drive for me. I'm going to look at it a little closer tomorrow. Thanks for all your help guys!
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Marvin Born

 

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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 19 Mar 2008 7:49 pm    
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You have an SD-10. So you have a pick up, a jack, a pot, a switch and a cap. and some wire.

Keep this in mind as you work in it.

There are two wires from the pick up, maybe just two wires or one wire with a braid around it. That is still two wires.

The braid or one wire from of the pick up goes straight to the ground side of the jack. (this is the sleeve side that has the mounting nut. It may stop at the pot,

The other wire (HOT wire) also goes to the jack but to the center of the jack. But it stops on the way.

So locate the hot wire from the pick up and follow it. It goes to one end of a cap, passing through the switch, (the cap is the little round thing with two wires) Note that it also continues to the jack. The other wire from the cap goes to one side terminal of the pot. The pot looks like a volume control.


Normally, two of the pot terminals are connected together, and maybe connect to the braid or the ground side of the jack.

So when you turn the pot one way your are moving the end of the cap closer to ground, and causing more high frequeancies to be lost, if you move it the other way, less cap is in the circuit and more high freqs are allowed to pass.


E-mail me and tell me what parts have connections and what don't and I can help you

There is a drawing on the forum that may not be correct, for your guitar, it is very hard to understand from that drawing.

There is another way to connect the pot and cap, but that was changed years ago, if yours don't match my descripiton, then yours may be the older way, it will be more like the forum drawing.


Keep this in mind. Many people remove the pot and cap from the circuit and you can do that until you understand how to re-wire it.


Connect the two wires from the pickup to the two conections on the output jack. If you have a braid. make sure it connects to the ground side of the jack. (side with threads and nut)

You are welcome to call me and I will talk you thru the repair on the phone. It is very simple. Do you have a soldering iron or gun.

Marvin
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Brandon Bankes


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Zanesville, Ohio
Post  Posted 25 Mar 2008 7:15 pm    
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Fixed it... thanks for the help guys
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