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Topic: Peavey Classic 50 212. Next Victim.. |
Eric West
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Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 25 Jan 2008 8:03 pm |
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OK.
It got here today.
$400.00 from a "blowout sale" at Guitar Center. Floor Demo model.
One tiny nick in the tolex. Agreed apon.
Sounds good in the basement.
Off to the Happy Eric Test..
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Eric West
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Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 26 Jan 2008 3:06 am
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Well it worked FINE.
I think it sounded better and was stronger than my pore old Hot Rod Deluxe.
Maybe a little harsher, but the Blue Marvels aren't broken in yet.
I don't think I want to be putting that kind of strain on my Blues Jr as a second stereo amp and am probably going to go with The CL50 212 and my Nashville 112 for the "two amp" setup. At least until my Hot Rod Deluxe gets a few new things..
Anyhow, I punished it moderately, and strangely the larger gig I have in the Local Truck Stop doesn't demand as much volume as the one tonight did.
Probably some new JJ Tesla EL84s and some Ecc83s and an 81 from Eurotubes.
More as it happens.
EJL |
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Stephen Gambrell
From:
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Posted 26 Jan 2008 11:49 am
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| Eric, I KNOW Ken will agree with me on this, go with JJ's for the 12AX7s, and the 12AU7. Won't cost as much, and better tubes. |
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 26 Jan 2008 2:23 pm
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Eric.. I owned/played a tweedy Classic 50 2x12 for quite a while several years back.. I guess in retrospect, I DID prefer it to my 2x12 Fender HRD which never really did much for me,it was too harsh IMHO.....
.It was a good reliable amp, sounded good with steel and guitar, but lacked a bit of the Fender "juiciness" for steel.. I went back to Silverface Fenders, but still liked the amp plenty. All the Peavey EL 84 Classics sound similar.. from the 20 to the 100... Same tone, just more or less power and different speaker configs.... Good luck with your new C 50.. They are good amps with lots of rich, buttery, toastywarm tubey goodness,,I think they wear better than the HRD amps too.. I bet after a bit you will like it better than the Fender... Enjoy it... ps..Don't beat the crap out of it! ... bob
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Eric West
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 26 Jan 2008 4:05 pm
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Well Steve I'm about 10 minutes away from Eurotubes so I guess I can bring my multimeter, buy a 10 dollar "EL84 Bias checker, walk back in and get the whole shot. The mids are a little fuzzy, but the bottom is solid and LOUD. Just ax- tubes from kids hammering them in the GC showroom I"m sure.
Bob. Thanks. I won't really be beating the feck out of it. Probably just a few places where I REALLY have to turn it up over my tastes.
The "Lead" circuit ( not a real 'channel') doesn't work, but for a new full warranteed rig with no imperfections otherwise, 399$ is the best deal I could have asked for. I "1 year"ed it with GC so by then it'll be all worked out.
When my HRD gets sorted out, it'll be a GREAT combo. Til then the 112 will handle the bottom. I'm not going to do in my BLues Jr pushing it at the insane volume levels I sometimes find myself trying to match.
It sure cut through a loud room last night without too much breakup. Certainly I could have punched the tele harder.
Also I like the Blue Marvel speakers. Overall, Peavey has some real winners on their record.
I'm going to put my Happy Eric Design Division™ to work on a New Logo...
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 2:16 am
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+10 watts and a 2nd 12" speaker makes a HUGE difference. The comparison should really be with the HR Deville, not the HR Deluxe.
Great amp Eric, enjoy...
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 7:13 am
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What Tony said. The Classic 50 is closer to the DeVille than the Deluxe.
The ones I've played all sounded simply sterile. Almost solid-state like, and harsh as they got louder. Not my cup o' tea. I may have just come across a few duds - don't see many around here.
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Eric West
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 9:04 am
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I found it seemed to "cut" better. I use an xtLive which can certainly "soften things up" no amp model, just delay compression on the tele channel, and I just go for it.
I sure preferred it over the AC 30 I tried at Portland Music, and the "Chubster". Of all the amps I tried I liked the AC15. Dunno why I wasn't impressed with the the AC30. Maybe I just didn't get it loud enough but it seemed to crumble the lower end way too much. Even more than the AC15. Maybe it was just a bad day in the Red Chinese Factory/Prison when they made that particular AC30..
Where the Classic 50 seems to "break up" is the midrange, which like I said makes me think that it justs needs tubes after being "floor demoed". PLENTY of good strong bass.
We'll see.
At least I'm dealing with Peavey, and the reliability.
EJL |
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Ken Fox
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Nashville GA USA
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 11:12 am
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| See that old Deuce just posted for $150.00?? That one is the older one with tremolo, so it is the nice one. That will take care of Jollie's |
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Eric West
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 12:10 pm
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And what's left of my sanity/ears..
I've seen a Deuce on Ebay, as well as a TNT (SS) and probably several more..
I'm at a point where I tell them that if they can't boost me in the monitors/pa, they are SOL.
It works out pretty well so far.
I think at Jollies, it's the drums that drive everything so high. I've played a few gigs there with Dennis Wall, and the problem didn't exist..
Hopefully the Cl50/HRD combo, or CL50/112 combo will be the solution I'm happy with.
I used only a Nvl400 for more than ten yrs by itself. A Session 500 for more than ten before that, with no effects. I'm pretty easy to please.
I think a combo that allows me the tube highs I've fallen in love with and a good amount of bass will get me there. I"m just enjoying the time I've got left.
I'm happy with the sound I've got, and want to refine and make it reliable. I"m halfway there with even the Blues Jr and a 112. Eveything else is icing on the cake.
EJL |
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 12:19 pm
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| Drums and low end are amplified so well there. Dennis makes a big difference. One of the few drummer I know that can play brushes so well. We did a jam in Longview one night and no one brought drums! Dennis had his stick bag and grabbed a 5 gallon bucket. He played his bucket off that night!! |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 31 Jan 2008 9:28 am
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| I traded for a Delta Blues with a 15". Wanted a 15 for baritone guitar. I noticed that the PT and OT were really small. Replaced the PT with a big old Hammond, and the OT with a Dr Z. Made a huge difference! Sounds great for steel at reasonable levels. Is the Delta Blues at all similar to the Classics? |
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Eric West
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 12 Mar 2008 2:56 pm
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OK. Latest..
I got a matched quad set of EL84s, a couple ECC81s and an ECC83 (I think they are) from EuroTubes. 65$ for all 7.
The "lead channel" problem was FIXED. Just a preamp tube..
What a GREAT amp.
Looking forward to
Peavey Reliability, as with my SSes, and hopefully my amp "supply" is adequate for a few years.
I don't have any money left...
No plans to Weberize it as I like the BlueMarvels.
EJL |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 13 Mar 2008 1:50 am
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Great amp Eric, I would buy one in a NY minute. My Tele pal has had 3 of them, one of them was a 4x10..the idiot sold it !...
He preferred my HR Deville over the Classics, I actually like the Classic equal or maybe more !
Now with regard to Steel, I have been using the HR Deville 2x12 for Steel on the last few gigs and I'm liking it more and more, I am not sure if the extra 10 watts is a factor over the Classics, but the extra 20 watts over the HR Deluxe is a clear factor. |
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Eric West
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 15 Mar 2008 7:16 pm
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Well I'll be "honest". (I hate saying that..)
I played the 50 last night, pointed right at my head, and I AM going to have to get used to that annoying "rattle". It's less in my HRD, but it's there. I only had one night with it having new tubes, and there were other factors. It's possible that the Blue Marvels aren't broken in yet.
Probably what they call "tube rattle". It is a sort of distortion, but not Bass Breakup. Mostly on midrange 3+ note chords.
The highs sing through, and the bass is definitely there.
Either way it's a really strong amp, especially for Tele. Which is what I'm more concerned about right now.
Been thinking about sending both my 112 and 400 to Ken when the big "Stimulus Package" hits my sagging personal economy..
Nobody else seems to notice the "fuzzy" either, and it does just add "character". "Cabinet rattle" isn't out of the question either.
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