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Dave Zirbel


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Post  Posted 21 Feb 2008 11:08 pm    
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My wife took me to see him for my 45th birthday. He was great but I really got excited when he pulled out the Gibson Thunderbird and the slide for the encore. Can't remember the first encore but ended with Highway 61. It was great. He tuned the T Bird to open D.

Coincidently Johnny was born on the same day I was (19 years before)

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Billy Wilson

 

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Post  Posted 21 Feb 2008 11:49 pm    
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Happy Birthday Dave. Glad to hear Johhny was in good form. Love em!!
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Jack Francis

 

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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 5:03 am    
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Good to hear that he's doing well..had some friends tell me that a few years back they went to see him in Santa Cruz and got up and left, they said that he appeared to be pretty wasted and were crushed because they were HUGE fans.
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Dave Zirbel


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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 6:09 am    
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Johnny is real frail and doesn't look very healthy. He plays sitting down. My father has a few years on him and looks/acts younger.

Actually at first I wasn't sure but by the third song he was smokin'! The only bummer for me was that he didn't play enough slide.

Thanks, Billy!
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 6:31 am     Re: Saw Johnny WInter tonight!
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Dave Zirbel wrote:
My wife took me to see him for my 45th birthday. He was great but I really got excited when he pulled out the Gibson Thunderbird and the slide for the encore. Can't remember the first encore but ended with Highway 61. It was great. He tuned the T Bird to open D.


The Gibson Thunderbird was a bass.

He would have been playing the Gibson Firebird. That's what happens when you get excited. Smile
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Tony Prior


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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 6:59 am    
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Wish I was there !
Saw him years back at Hunter College in NY. He played his FIREBIRD and he smoked and he was frail...and he PLAYED real loud !!

Not much changed I guess other than AGE and a CHAIR !
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Dave Zirbel


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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 8:07 am    
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I stand corrected. FIREBIRD. Thanks.

Yes it was loud. The opening act showed up with two guitar players each having two marshall half-stacks. One each would have been too much for that venue!

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Steve Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 8:22 am    
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"Johnny Winter And-Live"....one of the best live albums ever,imho...
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Dave Zirbel


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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 9:10 am    
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Does that album have lot's of slide playing Steve? I've been practicing my bottleneck guitar lately and need a little inspiration! Been using standard tuning but might try the open D. I used to use open E but have also been using the G Dobro tuning on lapsteel.

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Tony Prior


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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 9:13 am    
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Steve you are right on, I still listen to that record ( MP3's). Rick Deringer as the 2nd Guitar player ! I saw Rick a year or so back at a Guitar show and we talked about that LIVE album with Johnny, Rick's comment was , "wow man you remember , I don't " ! He was being funny and said he had a great time during those days, fast and furious.

" I was born in a Crossfire Hurricane "...

Yeah Man it rocked back then and still does today !
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Steve Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 9:41 am    
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Dave,it seems to me there was some slide playing on that record,but what really stands out in my mind is the lead playing...it was just so fluid...both JW and Rick Derringer turned in stellar performances on that record.Tony,do you have"Roadwork"?Rick Derringer played some of the most outrageous electric guitar I ever heard on that record!
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Michael Haselman


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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 10:29 am    
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"Meantown Blues" on live is a great JW slide song. I must have seen him at least a dozen times back in his heyday, including Johnny Winter And at what's now First Avenue in Minneapolis. Opening act: an unknown R&B/blues band from Boston called J. Geils Blues Band. Oh, thems was the days...
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Tony Prior


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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 12:08 pm    
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Steve, no to Roadwork, YES to gonna search for it..

but I do have the LP the Real McCoys ! Hang on Sloopy, with Rick Zalinger, I wonder if he is any relationship to Rick Deringer !
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 1:12 pm    
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Tony Prior wrote:
Steve, no to Roadwork, YES to gonna search for it..

but I do have the LP the Real McCoys ! Hang on Sloopy, with Rick Zalinger, I wonder if he is any relationship to Rick Deringer !


Trivia time. A trio called the Strangloves were touring with the Dave Clark 5. The Strangeloves wrote and were doing Hang on Sloopy and Clark said his group was going to do a recording of it so the guys in Strangelove who were more writers and producers than musicians recorded a rhythm track of the song and then found a group called "Rick and the Raiders". Rick and the Raiders added the vocals and a guitar solo to the Strangeloves track and changed the name of the band to the McCoys so that folks would not get them confused with Paul Revere and the Raiders and the rest is history. Zehringer became Dehringer. Much money was made.
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Steve Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 1:32 pm    
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Tony"Roadwork''is a live album by Edgar Winter'sWhiteTrash...Rick Derringer is the principal guitar player but JW makes a guest appearance...it is a double album with a horn section- some Otis Redding-type stuff and a full side of"Tobacco Road"...worth a listen if you like that kinda stuff...and I do.
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Jack Francis

 

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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 4:11 pm    
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Steve..I agree I have always felt that the lead that johnny played on "Jumpin' Jack Flash" was THE BEST lead I ever heard!! I felt that the lead for that song...was perfect! Whoa!
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Steve Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 4:34 pm    
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Yes,Jack...his playing was so fluid and sounded effortless...one of my favorites!
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Dave Zirbel


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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 6:02 pm    
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Funny you should say that Steve. My wife and I were leaning on the stage getting a close look at Johnny most of the show and her comment was that he made look effortless. The way his fingers would glide over those frets was cool and fun to watch. No flatpick either. Just a thumbpick and bare fingers.

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Dave Mudgett


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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 6:32 pm    
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Johnny Winter. Yep, one of the greats.

Back in 1969 and the early 70s, there was nobody that could touch him on fluid, pyrotechnical blues guitar, IMO. I used to see him fairly often, including right after Johnny Winter And, with Derringer onstage with him. They each had a pyramid of blackface Twin Reverbs dimed. Bloody glorious. If I could get away with diming a BF Twin Reverb, I'd get another Firebird V and have at it, but my bandmates would murder me in my sleep.

I saw some shows in the 80s where he was not in good form, to say the least. But he seems to be doing a lot better now - he was here a few months ago. Yes, he is looking frail, but I guess he's not a spring chicken anymore either.
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Tom Olson

 

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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 7:27 pm    
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I've seen quite a few photos and video clips of JW and I have to say there hasn't been one in which he didn't look at least a bit frail. In fact I remember seeing a clip of him from around 25 years ago and he was playing sitting in a chair.
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Herb Steiner

 

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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 9:45 pm    
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FAR OUT!! WHAT A GROOVE, MAN!! Laughing Laughing

Do you studs know that tomorrow (Feb. 23) is Johnny Winter's 64th birthday?

Unfortunately, from his reported condition, he made 64... um... "the hard way." But he can still rock. Of course, he's legendary here in TX. Not as big as Stevie Ray, but he should be, IMHO.
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Frank Freniere


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Post  Posted 23 Feb 2008 7:02 am    
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"The Illustrated Man" - great self-reference song re:JW's tats.
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CrowBear Schmitt


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Post  Posted 23 Feb 2008 7:34 am    
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i spent 6 months as a roadie fer Johnny back round 1970
it was the loudest band i had ever worked for
his brother Edgar had joined the band on keyboard & sax
i used to sit behind 6 to 8 twins ( half of them were on & the others were on standby) ready to switch over when a speaker blew out or if the twin went
Johnny used to play this trad down home tune in an open tuning on a small black guitar or mandoline type job that i dug a lot
other than that his slide was scorching
Johnny was a pretty easy goin' fellow & his brother seemed quite an intellectual
as usual in those times, the recreative substances abounded & i managed to keep my eye on the donut

Happy Birthday Johnny
you had one hell of a ride
compared to many from those times
you're still around to testify
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Ron Whitfield

 

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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
Post  Posted 23 Feb 2008 8:19 am    
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Cool Dave! I got to catch JW's Honolulu gig a few months back and he maintained a high level of intensity thruout the show. I was happily surprised. Never once actually saw him, as he was sitting and I was hanging in the back away from the sonic onslaught.
Hoped he'd smoke Bony Morony like he did the last time I caught him (didn't play it), '73 Long Beach Arena, with Derringer opening.

Johnny's been forced on the road these day's to recoup serious financial losses by his 'bad man' former manager.

The Johnny Winter And band had a great drummer, Bobby Caldwell, who soon went on to start the great Captain Beyond and give us that stunning debut LP, which flew past most listener's radar.
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ajm

 

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Post  Posted 23 Feb 2008 12:40 pm    
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Someone had to do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8siLZ4zNbY
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