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HowardR


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Post  Posted 4 May 2006 7:21 pm    
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Since the PSGA Show this past November, I've had more than several emails requesting a thread to this one of a kind guitar that was built by Leo Fender specifically for Jerry byrd, according to his specifications.

Wow! That's one long sentence. My uncle also had a long sentence....but that's another story.

Here are some photos.....





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HowardR


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Post  Posted 4 May 2006 7:26 pm    
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HowardR


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Post  Posted 4 May 2006 7:29 pm    
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Billy Wilson

 

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Post  Posted 4 May 2006 8:37 pm    
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All guitars on this website are over 18 years of age.
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Mark Eaton


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Post  Posted 4 May 2006 8:49 pm    
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Yeah, Billy-you hit that one on the head!

Howard, how did you ever procure this gem?

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basilh


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Post  Posted 5 May 2006 12:56 am    
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How DID he procure it.. well one can speculate !!
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My uncle also had a long sentence....but that's another story.

I notice the use of the 800/2000 tuning pan just drilled out for eight strings, presumably to facilitate better angles on string 1 and 8 ..

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basilh


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Post  Posted 5 May 2006 1:19 am    
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Howard, who's cooking is this ?

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Gerald Ross


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Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Post  Posted 5 May 2006 4:39 am    
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Baz,

What type of British Isles delicacy is that?
Bangers and Mash? Bubble and Squeak? Clotted Cream? Groaty Dick Pudding? Oxtail Brawn? Singing Hinnies? Toad-In-The-Hole?

Must be Spotted Dick!
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Rick Garrett

 

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Post  Posted 5 May 2006 5:18 am    
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Looks like someone cooked their workboots. Baz, tell me there's hawg in there somewhere.

Rick
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Ron Simpson

 

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Post  Posted 5 May 2006 5:28 am    
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Aloha Howard,

Mahalo for sharing the photos of this unique instrument. Do the strings anchor on the bridge plate as on a Stringmaster, or from the back, or from the back as on a Telecaster? What is the scale length on this beauty?

Mahalo,
Ron
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HowardR


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Post  Posted 5 May 2006 5:59 am    
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Ah, the smoker brings back memories.....and heartburn. But those ribs (there be hawg) & chicken were worth it. It may not look like much, but there wasn't anything left after my buzzard friends came over for a BBQ & beer.


The JB Fender has a scale of 22 1/2 with 3/8" string spacing. It's a string through design. The strings go into the bridgeplate and through the body. There's a plate on the bottom of the guitar where the ball ends nestle.

JB did everything his way.

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Roy Thomson


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Post  Posted 5 May 2006 7:06 am    
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Seems to me I recall that this is the
Steel Jerry used for "Memories of Maria",
a melody written by Roy Obitson and which turned out to be one of JB's greatest hits
commerially speaking?
If that be the case one wonders why he would
decide to let it go?
Anyway congratulations Howard on your catch.
I envy you my friend and thanks for bringing
forth this thread.

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Roger Shackelton

 

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Post  Posted 5 May 2006 7:43 am    
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The long tuning pan on this guitar appears to be one that was used on a Fender 10 string PSG. I wonder if this was per Jerry Byrd's request?

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Ray Montee


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Post  Posted 5 May 2006 7:50 am    
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'cuse my ignorance but...........

How much modification has been done to this guitar? What all has been done to change its cosmetic appearance?
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HowardR


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Post  Posted 5 May 2006 10:57 am    
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http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum2/HTML/001268.html
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum2/HTML/002323.html
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum2/HTML/002797.html
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Wayne Cox

 

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Chatham, Louisiana, USA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 5 May 2006 12:17 pm    
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I hope this opinon is taken in the most respectful manner possible. It appears to me that Fender took an 800 body w/hardware and a late model 400 pickup,a 800 keyhead pan (drilled for only 8 keys) threw away the metal frame,installed fender stringmaster leg sockets & legs and custom built a nut and bridge. I really can't fault Fender for using what they had on hand, if it works! But,in the hands of Jerry Byrd, how could it not sound good.
~~W.C.~~
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HowardR


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Post  Posted 5 May 2006 2:02 pm    
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Hey Wayne, no problem here. I love speculation, and after all, in the end, we're talking about a piece of wood.

What I would question is the scale length of an 800. Did you compare the length and the width both guitars?

I ask this of Wayne because I emailed him all of the specs some time ago. BTW, I retrieved my multi meter so maybe I can check the pick up.
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Wayne Cox

 

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Post  Posted 6 May 2006 2:46 pm    
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HOWARD, the Fender 800 (I used to own one)had a 23" scale. Exact body width...I'm not sure. I always wondered why Fender went to a 23" scale for the 800 instead of one of their other standard scale lengths,e.g. 22.5/24.5,etc. The fender 800 I had was a metallic blue (factory finish). I'd wager there aren't many of those around either.
~~W.C.~~
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 6 May 2006 3:39 pm    
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Yes, the top of this guitar looks a lot like a Fender pedal steel, more so than a stringmaster. It's a one-off made for the greatest steel guitarist of all time.

As I stated in the five year old post linked above, Jerry used this guitar on his classic album Satin Strings of Steel. This album is loaded onto my IPOD and I've listened to it hundreds of times!

I read somewhere that Jerry used this Fender and his Rick on that record, and I often try to figure out which guitar was played on which song. Howard, when you're ready to sell it... call me!

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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 6 May 2006 4:23 pm    
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Speaking of this album... with this guitar on the cover ---> click

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Andy Sandoval


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Bakersfield, California, USA
Post  Posted 6 May 2006 8:30 pm    
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Howard, what an awesome guitar to own. What year did Fender build it for Jerry?
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 6 May 2006 11:06 pm    
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Howard may know the exact date... but if I may speculate... "Satin Strings of Steel" was released on the Monument label in 1965. This guitar appears on the cover. This body style (Fender 800) was introduced in 1965, according to George Gruhn.

As mentiobned above, this guitar looks like a factory modified 800 body w/modified 800 tuner pan.

"Satin Stings of Steel" was a reissue of a 1962 Byrd album called "Memories of Maria". Same songs, new title, new cover in 1965. The best steel guitar music ever recorded IMHO


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HowardR


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Post  Posted 7 May 2006 4:17 am    
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The JB Fender was (I believe) built in 1964.

Very smart on Leo's part to use an 800 body & tuner pan, if that's what he indeed did. If you notice the legs, they were also set up to JB's specs. The legs in the front are closer to each other as compared to the back legs. Four total. This is an extremely stable guitar.

I like the matte satin finish also.

I think that Fender would have had a huge hit for a JB model had Jerry endorsed it and Fender marketed it.
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Wayne Cox

 

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Post  Posted 7 May 2006 1:20 pm    
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I would have to say that the photographer and album cover designer outdid themselves on the "Satin Strings" album also. That album cover has class,just like the album.
~~W.C.~~
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Larry W. Jones

 

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Longmont, Colorado
Post  Posted 8 May 2006 1:14 am    
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This is off the subject of the Fender guitar but it IS Jerry Byrd. At the Renfro Valley Barn Dance.
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