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Topic: The Jerry Byrd Fender |
HowardR
From: N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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HowardR
From: N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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HowardR
From: N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Billy Wilson
From: El Cerrito, California, USA
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Posted 4 May 2006 8:37 pm
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All guitars on this website are over 18 years of age. |
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Mark Eaton
From: Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 4 May 2006 8:49 pm
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Yeah, Billy-you hit that one on the head!
Howard, how did you ever procure this gem?
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basilh
From: United Kingdom
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basilh
From: United Kingdom
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Posted 5 May 2006 1:19 am
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Howard, who's cooking is this ?
[This message was edited by basilh on 05 May 2006 at 02:20 AM.] |
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Gerald Ross
From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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Posted 5 May 2006 4:39 am
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Baz,
What type of British Isles delicacy is that?
Bangers and Mash? Bubble and Squeak? Clotted Cream? Groaty Dick Pudding? Oxtail Brawn? Singing Hinnies? Toad-In-The-Hole?
Must be Spotted Dick! |
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Rick Garrett
From: Tyler, Texas
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Posted 5 May 2006 5:18 am
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Looks like someone cooked their workboots. Baz, tell me there's hawg in there somewhere.
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Ron Simpson
From: Illinois, USA
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Posted 5 May 2006 5:28 am
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Aloha Howard,
Mahalo for sharing the photos of this unique instrument. Do the strings anchor on the bridge plate as on a Stringmaster, or from the back, or from the back as on a Telecaster? What is the scale length on this beauty?
Mahalo,
Ron
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HowardR
From: N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 5 May 2006 5:59 am
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Ah, the smoker brings back memories.....and heartburn. But those ribs (there be hawg) & chicken were worth it. It may not look like much, but there wasn't anything left after my buzzard friends came over for a BBQ & beer.
The JB Fender has a scale of 22 1/2 with 3/8" string spacing. It's a string through design. The strings go into the bridgeplate and through the body. There's a plate on the bottom of the guitar where the ball ends nestle.
JB did everything his way.[This message was edited by HowardR on 05 May 2006 at 07:01 AM.] |
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Roy Thomson
From: Wolfville, Nova Scotia,Canada
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Posted 5 May 2006 7:06 am
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Seems to me I recall that this is the
Steel Jerry used for "Memories of Maria",
a melody written by Roy Obitson and which turned out to be one of JB's greatest hits
commerially speaking?
If that be the case one wonders why he would
decide to let it go?
Anyway congratulations Howard on your catch.
I envy you my friend and thanks for bringing
forth this thread.
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Roger Shackelton
From: MINNESOTA (deceased)
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Posted 5 May 2006 7:43 am
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The long tuning pan on this guitar appears to be one that was used on a Fender 10 string PSG. I wonder if this was per Jerry Byrd's request?
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Ray Montee
From: Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 5 May 2006 7:50 am
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'cuse my ignorance but...........
How much modification has been done to this guitar? What all has been done to change its cosmetic appearance? |
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HowardR
From: N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Wayne Cox
From: Chatham, Louisiana, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 5 May 2006 12:17 pm
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I hope this opinon is taken in the most respectful manner possible. It appears to me that Fender took an 800 body w/hardware and a late model 400 pickup,a 800 keyhead pan (drilled for only 8 keys) threw away the metal frame,installed fender stringmaster leg sockets & legs and custom built a nut and bridge. I really can't fault Fender for using what they had on hand, if it works! But,in the hands of Jerry Byrd, how could it not sound good.
~~W.C.~~ |
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HowardR
From: N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 5 May 2006 2:02 pm
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Hey Wayne, no problem here. I love speculation, and after all, in the end, we're talking about a piece of wood.
What I would question is the scale length of an 800. Did you compare the length and the width both guitars?
I ask this of Wayne because I emailed him all of the specs some time ago. BTW, I retrieved my multi meter so maybe I can check the pick up. |
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Wayne Cox
From: Chatham, Louisiana, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 6 May 2006 2:46 pm
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HOWARD, the Fender 800 (I used to own one)had a 23" scale. Exact body width...I'm not sure. I always wondered why Fender went to a 23" scale for the 800 instead of one of their other standard scale lengths,e.g. 22.5/24.5,etc. The fender 800 I had was a metallic blue (factory finish). I'd wager there aren't many of those around either.
~~W.C.~~ |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Posted 6 May 2006 3:39 pm
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Yes, the top of this guitar looks a lot like a Fender pedal steel, more so than a stringmaster. It's a one-off made for the greatest steel guitarist of all time.
As I stated in the five year old post linked above, Jerry used this guitar on his classic album Satin Strings of Steel. This album is loaded onto my IPOD and I've listened to it hundreds of times!
I read somewhere that Jerry used this Fender and his Rick on that record, and I often try to figure out which guitar was played on which song. Howard, when you're ready to sell it... call me! [This message was edited by Doug Beaumier on 06 May 2006 at 05:06 PM.] |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Posted 6 May 2006 4:23 pm
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Speaking of this album... with this guitar on the cover ---> click
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Andy Sandoval
From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 6 May 2006 8:30 pm
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Howard, what an awesome guitar to own. What year did Fender build it for Jerry? |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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HowardR
From: N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 7 May 2006 4:17 am
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The JB Fender was (I believe) built in 1964.
Very smart on Leo's part to use an 800 body & tuner pan, if that's what he indeed did. If you notice the legs, they were also set up to JB's specs. The legs in the front are closer to each other as compared to the back legs. Four total. This is an extremely stable guitar.
I like the matte satin finish also.
I think that Fender would have had a huge hit for a JB model had Jerry endorsed it and Fender marketed it. |
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Wayne Cox
From: Chatham, Louisiana, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 7 May 2006 1:20 pm
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I would have to say that the photographer and album cover designer outdid themselves on the "Satin Strings" album also. That album cover has class,just like the album.
~~W.C.~~ |
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Larry W. Jones
From: Longmont, Colorado
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Posted 8 May 2006 1:14 am
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This is off the subject of the Fender guitar but it IS Jerry Byrd. At the Renfro Valley Barn Dance.
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