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Topic: Need a pic of an old Marlen changer. |
Bill Hatcher
From: Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 13 Feb 2008 11:15 am
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Picked up an old Marlen D12 that I am tweaking on...don't frown...I am just trying to set it up in a non pedal tuning and only want the pedals to change to other tunings to play in a lap steel/non pedal way and not play licks in the E9 fashion. I know a lot of you don't mess with these old pull release Marlens but if you have a closeup pic of the under side of the changer showing the spring and rod hookups that would help.
Also, there are two adjustment rollers behind each cam. What is the principal behind adjusting these?
The guitar is made of nice old maple and has a lot of potential to be used in the manner I want to use it. Better than trashing it which is just about the condition it was in.
Help save one. Any info appreciated. |
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David Collins
From: Madison, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2008 5:01 am
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Hope this helps, it is the changers on one of the very first Marlens. [/img] _________________ David Collins
www.chjoyce.com |
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Bill Hatcher
From: Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2008 8:01 am
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Thanks Dave.
Are there any other springs hooked to the changer fingers? |
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David Collins
From: Madison, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2008 10:29 am
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None hooked directly to the finger, several hooked to the mechanisms that push or pull the rod.
The raises are tuned at the keyhead, and open at the screw on the end of the changer, top side, somewhat like the sho-bud fingertip.
The lowers are tuned open at the keyhead and the lower at the screw.
The nuts on the rod are set to assure finger contact with the body whever the raise is activated, and/or to assure ample "push" to acheive the lower.
Tried to insert another picture, having trouble for some reason. Send me an e-mail, I'll reply with several more pictures. |
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David Collins
From: Madison, North Carolina, USA
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Bill Hatcher
From: Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2008 10:44 am
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David. Many thanks for the link. The changer on my guitar is different than yours. The cams have a thinner piece of metal pinned in with holes in them for different rod placement. Also there is a threaded rod attached to the cam that goes out the back of the changer and then two separate spring held adjusters allow for adjusting the cam movement I guess.
Maybe someone else here has that kind of changer and would like to give some info on how it is set up and adjusted. |
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David Collins
From: Madison, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2008 1:12 pm
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Bill,
As with most manufacturers, there were several evolutions of the Marlen pull release system.
In addition to the one that I own and posted photos of, I have worked on several different ones over the years. I am no expert by any means on all of the details of every possible make and model, but if you'll get some pictures of your changer to me, I may be able to help. I can't get a mental picture of your exact changer, but a picture may well jog this old memory.
I have a special interest in the Marlen Steels as I live in the home county of their production, Rockingham county, NC.
I also live within 1/4 mile, and am good friends with a gentleman who worked for Leonard and Dorothy and built Marlens in their later years. He is also a wealth of information regarding these wonderful old guitars. He mainly did the final set up and tuning adjustments to each guitar before it was picked up or shipped to the customer.
If he was ever involved in building one with the type changer that you have, he will surely be able to tell you what you need to know.
I'll be most happy to help in any way that I can. _________________ David Collins
www.chjoyce.com |
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Rick Winfield
From: Pickin' beneath the Palmettos
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Posted 14 Feb 2008 3:04 pm Marlen
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I have a maple 73 D 10 Marlen. I will be happy to send pics if it will help, but it will take me a few days. single finger pull release system. Somehow I've got it staying tuned and functioning well. with only 7 months experience, it was a real challenge at times. Good luck in your endeavor
Rick |
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Bill Hatcher
From: Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2008 6:59 am
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Thanks Ric. You can also send them to my email address if your like. I have my Marlen changer taken apart for cleaning right now. It is so gunked up with black tar like old hardened lube that it just had to be pulled apart. Could not even function in the condition it is in. |
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