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Bill Hatcher

 

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Post  Posted 28 Jan 2008 7:49 pm    
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I am guessing aside from the Emmons board obviously being used that someone also replaced the top plate on it. What do you guys think??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150211075801&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=005
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James Collett

 

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San Dimas, CA
Post  Posted 28 Jan 2008 8:03 pm    
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Don't look like no MSA...
almost looks like it was assembled with a bunch of different manuf'rs parts
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Rick Nicklas

 

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Post  Posted 28 Jan 2008 8:05 pm    
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Kind of looks like a Woodshop/Metalshop project. Very Happy
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Bent Romnes


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Post  Posted 28 Jan 2008 8:07 pm    
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There is something weird about that guitar.Maybe it's just the fact that the rear neck was taken off and without a pad it makes the whole guitar look too wide.
The blonde color also looks a bit strange

Aside from that and the Emmons fret board, I recall from memory that: The pedal bar and pedals look like MSA. As well, the undercarriage looks authentic to me.
The key head likewise. The pillow blocks are MSA as well. Ditto the loose knee lever.

The small pics don't help. For all we know it could be a home built, from readily available after market parts.
There's just something about that cabinet...
It will be interesting to see the winning bid...
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 28 Jan 2008 9:19 pm    
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Bent Romnes wrote:
There is something weird about that guitar.Maybe it's just the fact that the rear neck was taken off and without a pad it makes the whole guitar look too wide.


The rear neck was not taken off. There is no opening routed out for the changer to fit down into. The top plate of the body has been changed.
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Mike Perlowin


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Post  Posted 28 Jan 2008 10:23 pm    
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It's another "frankensteel."
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Bill Ford


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Post  Posted 29 Jan 2008 11:11 am    
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Un-edicated guess....MSA parts, home/shop built cabnet. The bottom level looks too wide ( as per Bent )but the end plates look original and unmodified. Also looks too long,but all the underside parts look original MSA stuff that fit the cabinet & pedalboard. There is another homebuilt on this persons website.

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Jerry Hayes


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Virginia Beach, Va.
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2008 11:21 am    
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I saw an MSA SD-10 about twenty some years ago in SoCal that looked like this guitar but it had a pad. My question about this one is.....Didn't the MSA and Emmons have a different scale length? If so, and this is an MSA, the fretboard wouldn't work. Maybe they are the same scale but I always thought an MSA was the same scale length as a ShoBud.....JH in Va.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 29 Jan 2008 3:38 pm    
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Couple of 'ya got it right! Wink This was (quite obviously, I might add), a D10 MSA. It's body has been replaced, and it's been made into an S10 "loafer", minus a pad. With exception of the fretboard, body (and maybe the neck), everything there is MSA.
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Darvin Willhoite


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Roxton, Tx. USA
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2008 4:03 pm    
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MSA Classics are 24" scale, which is the same as an Emmons P/P, if memory serves me right (which sometimes it doesn't).
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John Drury


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Post  Posted 29 Jan 2008 4:17 pm    
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Its doin ya right this time Darvin. That axe is all MSA but the fretboard.

That is probably why the guy offed it, intonation is driving him up the wall, and things really turn to $h!t upon entering "Hueyland".

The MSA is indeed a 24" scale, that Emmons fret board is a 24 1/4".
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2008 4:37 pm    
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John Drury wrote:
Its doin ya right this time Darvin. That axe is all MSA but the fretboard.


If it is all MSA where is the opening for the C6 changer and the screw holes for the neck and keyhead??
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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2008 5:39 pm    
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This forum topic doesn't look right, with those long links in it.

Please use BBCode when posting long links. Oh Well
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2008 6:17 pm    
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b0b. So sorry, but I have no idea what that code thing is. I just go up to the address line and cut and then paste that. When I click on the URL, it goes right to the page with the guitar on it. What is the problem??

This is a link to an Ebay page. It probably has to have all that junk in there to get you there.
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Jerry Scoope


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Denver,Colorado, USA
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2008 6:24 pm     msa
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Bill you've got mail

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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2008 6:25 pm    
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Got it!
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basilh


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Post  Posted 29 Jan 2008 6:42 pm     Re: This MSA just does not look right....
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Bill if you click the "Quote" button on THIS post you'll see the way I wrote the BBCode..so that your long URL became this :-

Click Here
For Bill #2
Click Here
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basilh


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Post  Posted 29 Jan 2008 6:45 pm    
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Quote:
It probably has to have all that junk in there to get you there.

No, click my links and see..
Or better still click the link in bob's post to the BBCode..
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2008 7:42 pm    
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BAz. I clicked on b0bs' link and read about two lines.....man it is easier to play over a half diminished chord with an unknown tuning than figure all that out!

Thanks for trying though.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2008 9:13 pm    
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Bill Hatcher wrote:

If it is all MSA where is the opening for the C6 changer and the screw holes for the neck and keyhead??


They're in the old mica/plywood body, which someone evidently trashed (and replaced with a new, home-made body).
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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2008 10:18 pm    
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Bill Hatcher wrote:
BAz. I clicked on b0bs' link and read about two lines.....man it is easier to play over a half diminished chord with an unknown tuning than figure all that out!

Thanks for trying though.


Code:

[url=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll.etc.etc.]CLICK HERE[/url]


does this:
CLICK HERE

The problem is that those long URLs cause horizontal scrollbars on the whole page, which makes it hard to read for everyone.
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John Drury


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Post  Posted 30 Jan 2008 5:24 am    
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There were loafers made back in the day with double neck endplates but I guess there should still be screwholes for the pad. Maybe you guys are right about the home made cabinet.

Post the serial numbers and this whole mess can be cleared up very quickly by the "Reece".
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 30 Jan 2008 6:08 am    
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b0b wrote:
Bill Hatcher wrote:
BAz. I clicked on b0bs' link and read about two lines.....man it is easier to play over a half diminished chord with an unknown tuning than figure all that out!

Thanks for trying though.


Code:

[url=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll.etc.etc.]CLICK HERE[/url]


does this:
CLICK HERE

The problem is that those long URLs cause horizontal scrollbars on the whole page, which makes it hard to read for everyone.


b0b. I believe I understand what you are saying now, even though when I clicked on your "click here" the Ebay page comes up fine with no horizontal scrollbars at all. So you are saying that some people will get these and some won't with the long URL?
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Steven Black

 

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Gahanna, Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 30 Jan 2008 6:15 am     MSA
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That knee lever probably works quite smoothly sitting on top of the guitar.
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Bill Ford


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Graniteville SC Aiken
Post  Posted 30 Jan 2008 6:54 am    
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b0b/Basil, Is this ok?

http://tinyurl.com/2txzk6
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