First post and question re Cindy Cashdollar Vide

LaVonne Frank · From: Wisconsin, USA

Hi Everyone,

This is my first post. I’ve been playing guitar and mandolin for some time but this is my first venture into the lap steel world. I recently picked up a very cool Supro 6 string lap from Vic, a forum member. He also recommended this great forum. Thanks vic.

Here’s my question. I love western swing and am very interested in the Homespun Cindy Cashdollar series but it states for 8 string c6th tuning. If anyone has seen this video can you tell me if I it would be useful with a 6 string lap?

Thanks
LaVonne

Tom Taylor · From: San Antonio, Texas, USA

I only have the first video, but it is very useful even for 6 string. Most of the stuff is done on the C-E-G-A-C-E strings used on the 6 string tunings. A couple of times she reaches the for the 1st string (the high G in her 8 string). She shows however, where the notes from the eight string 1st string can be found on the 6 string tuning.
I would highly reccommend it. I use the hight E tuning on my eight string, and the stuff she teaches is perfect for it as well.

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Gary Ball · From: Lapwai, Idaho, USA

She has suggested tunings for both 8 string and 6 string in her videos as well as instructions on how to use either tuning.

Go for it.

Keith Cordell · From: San Diego

You'll pick up stuff from that video that I doubt you can get anywhere else. She has a very expressive was with her hands that make it easier somehow to learn. She also has a great pace and you get a chance to catch subtleties better than in some of the videos out there. Almost makes me wonder if she was a teacher in a former life.

Tony Harris · From: England

Hi, I have this excellent video, and learnt the standard C6 tuning - (low to high)CEGACE. I think Cindy says for six-string to just ignore the bottom two strings of her tuning, when in fact you should ignore the top one and the bottom one. I checked out lots of tunings when I started a few years ago. I wanted ONE tuning to do it all, 'cause I didn't want to have to find an eight-string, or a twin-neck, and I didn't think I could cope with learning two or more different tunings. I wrote to Tom Morrell (check him out, particularly if you like jazz and western swing) asking about what tuning he used. He replied to settle on a tuning and LEARN your way around it. I believe his tuning is a different sixth tuning, but has all the same intervals as C6. I find that C6 can give you straight country (with a few pedal-type licks), Hawaiian, jazz, and is instant western swing. The only 'progression' I later made, if you play jazz or songs with diminished chords, was to raise the bottom C top C#. You can investigate this later... Have fun. I got the bug so bad, it was almost like the enthusiasm I felt when learning guitar 40 years ago!
Tony.

Ben Jones · From: Seattle, Washington, USA

I have the videos but was very confused and put off by the missing two strings. She spends the bulk of the video doing a song and using strings 7 and 8, least thats how i remembered it. Maybe you can get by without those two strings if you know what you are doin, but as a beginner it was kind of like trying to build a model airplane with some of the parts missin.

I dumped the c6th tuning for an open tuning and the instrument opened up for me. Someday tho i hope to have time to go back and give those tapes (and c6th) another shot. If Cindy did say to ignore the wrong string that would make a HUGE difference in understanding what was going on to a newb like me. Can anyone confirm that? Do I ignore 1 and 8, or 7 and 8?

Not to rip on any instructional video, but um...thats a pretty HUGE mistake to leave in the tape. Isnt that what video editing machines are for?

Steinar Gregertsen · From: Arendal, Norway, R.I.P.

According to this thread you must ignore strings 1 and 8,- CC's C6th tuning has a G on top.

Steinar

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Andy Sandoval · From: Bakersfield, California, USA

I would recommend Cindy's videos to anyone that's into Western Swing and wants to get a good idea of what you can do with the C6 tuning.

Jude Reinhardt · From: Weaverville, NC

If you take Cindy's advice and drop strings 7 & 8 you end up with EGACEG low to high which fit in with the tab for me. After I got more familiar with the guitar I went to the conventional six string tuning, CEGACE low to high.

Jude

Ben Jones · From: Seattle, Washington, USA

see, confusing aint it? Its as if one of the primary math text books used in our elementary schools contained a passage that said 2+2=5.

Tom Taylor · From: San Antonio, Texas, USA

LaVonne,
I think this is coming across as more confusing than it is. The tablature that comes with the videos is clear. Her tuning is ACEGACEG, and the six string tuning is CEGACE (the middle six strings in her tuning). The video is very applicable to this tuning.

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Andy Sandoval · From: Bakersfield, California, USA

Tom, your absolutely right about Cindy's videos. I used my 6 string Fender Champion tuned (low to high) CEGACE and there was no problem with the tablature.

William Steward · From: Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands

LaVonne another of Cindy's instructional videos which might be interesting is 'Dobro Variations' where she explores G6 tuning on Panhandle Rag. Unfortunately it is only 1 tune of the 4 in the lesson although I found them all interesting. I put G6 on my 6 string and it sounds nice (GBEGBD). You can then lower the third string to D (making a standard dobro tuning GBDGBD). This is a bit more versatile than having to always work around the 6 note in the middle. Also there is tons of tablature out there for the dobro tuning which is another advantage.

[This message was edited by William Steward on 16 April 2006 at 06:24 AM.]

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