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Topic: What's your most difficult pedal/lever move to execute? |
Andy Jones
From:
Mississippi
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Posted 31 Dec 2007 6:55 pm |
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I'm working on a few tunes that require the A pedal and LKR(lowers 4&8)to be depressed together.This is a contortionist's trick for me.Anyone have any suggestions on how to do this effectively?
Andy |
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Calvin Walley
From:
colorado city colorado, USA
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Posted 31 Dec 2007 10:19 pm
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Andy
i used to have this exact same problem
my solution was to take my guitar back
to Mullen and have all my pedals moved one
pedal space to the right.
it cost $160.00 but was worth every penny
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Dan Beller-McKenna
From:
Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 4:04 am
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That's why I lower 4 and 8 with RKL. I save LKR for a change that rarely requires the A pedal; 6th string G#-F#.
Dan
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Richard Gonzales
From:
Davidson, NC USA
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 5:12 am
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| Try the DAY setup. Lower E's RKR, A pedal 3rd from the left. Easy! |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 5:18 am
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LKL "F" lever and the LKV "Bb" is one that gets my attention ..
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 6:45 am
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| For my "KISS" playing there isn't any combination that is "hard". |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 8:04 am
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Andy,
To make that move as effortlessly as possible, you need to shorten the throw on the LKR lever as much as possible. Also take out whatever slop you have in the lever. It's really not that bad!  |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 8:16 am
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My answer's sorta like Jack's! 
I play double necks, and one thing I've done to my guitars is to set them up with separate left-knee levers for each neck. My left knees for C6th are closer to the center of the guitar, while the E9th levers are more to the left (where the E9th floor pedals are). As a result, my guitars are totally comfortable, and I don't have to go through all those weird "left-leg contortions" that most other players do. Where they're doing all sorts of sideways things with their left leg, my left leg hardly has to move.
I'm not a great player, but I've had several players comment that my playing seems almost "effortless".
I think that's the way it should be. |
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Don Sulesky
From:
Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 8:41 am
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For me I find the LKV and the RKR the most difficult for me to use. Thus I try to find ways around them.
I have no problem with any of the other knees.
I also lower my E's with the RKL. |
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Larry Strawn
From:
Golden Valley, Arizona, R.I.P.
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 10:50 am
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My most difficult is my LKV by itself. It's hard for me to lift my leg straight up even though my lever is adjusted down close to my knee.
I'm sure I'm missing a lot of good "stuff" that I don't know about, because I very seldom use my LKV unless I have A+B down.
Larry
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Bent Romnes
From:
London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 11:29 am
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My tough one is going from BC to B with LKR (lower E's)
I am with Doug 100% when he says lift your heel off the floor. It seems like a natural. |
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James Collett
From:
San Dimas, CA
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 11:54 am
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I'll second B+C->B+LKR; equally diffucult for me is going from A+B->B+C smoothly. I seem to always pause or make a bunch of racket in the process.  |
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Bent Romnes
From:
London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 11:58 am
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Haha..I know what you're sayin James! The AB to BC change is a toughie... The best way for me to do that one is to avoid it  |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 12:09 pm
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| Larry Strawn wrote: |
My most difficult is my LKV by itself. It's hard for me to lift my leg straight up even though my lever is adjusted down close to my knee.
... I very seldom use my LKV unless I have A+B down.
Larry |
Same here. This is why I have my F# to G (natural) raise on the LKV. I never use that change without at least using the pedals. (Sometimes I use just the B pedal without the A so I get the notes G,A, and B on the open strings.)
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| I'm sure I'm missing a lot of good "stuff" that I don't know about... |
This is also why I feel the putting the B to Bb change on the vertical is a mistake. The B-Bb change has all sorts of used that aren't apparent at first, Putting it where it's hard to use by itself discourages one from exploring it's many possibilities. (My latest one is using it in conjunction with the E-F raise, then sliding the bar back 2 frets, retaining the E-F raise, releasing the B-Bb change and adding the A pedal.)
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 12:25 pm
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| Mike - On the passage you describe, you can also slide the bar back just one fret, releasing the B>Bb lever, then go down one more fret. |
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Colm Chomicky
From:
Kansas, (Prairie Village)
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 1:27 pm
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| Emmons set-up, I can't contort to rock of the B hold the A with LKR activated. I have to slide foot left off the B, foot all on A to get that combination. I have only use it when playing some tab at home. I don't know if that is the best way but that's how I have to do it. |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 1:41 pm
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| Larry Strawn wrote: |
My most difficult is my LKV by itself. It's hard for me to lift my leg straight up even though my lever is adjusted down close to my knee.
I'm sure I'm missing a lot of good "stuff" that I don't know about, because I very seldom use my LKV unless I have A+B down.
Larry |
Larry, rather than trying to just "lift" that left leg (when you're not activating any pedals), put your toe on the floor and push down. You'll find that the leg goes up all by itself!  |
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Larry Strawn
From:
Golden Valley, Arizona, R.I.P.
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 2:39 pm
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Donny Hinson wrote [/quote]
Larry, rather than trying to just "lift" that left leg (when you're not activating any pedals), put your toe on the floor and push down. You'll find that the leg goes up all by itself! [/quote]
I'm working on that Donny, it's still a really awkward move for me right now though, getting my foot off the pedals, activating the lever and then getting back on the pedals in time.  Hopefully it will improve.
Larry
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Andy Jones
From:
Mississippi
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 3:23 pm
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Thanks for all the suggestions and comments,Gents.Doug,so far your suggestion of lifting my heel off the floor is working pretty good.I see there are several things I can try to cure this problem.It'll just take practice,that's all.Is this forum great or what?
Getting better every day,Andy |
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Bob Kagy
From:
Lafayette, CO USA
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 4:05 pm
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| LKV by itself and LKV plus LKL, or LKV moving to LKL. But I can still do it |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 4:50 pm
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re: vert. lever by itself---I've got the lever adjusted to rest just barely above my leg so that it's a very small move to activate. It really doesn't present any problems since I set it up just right.
The killer for me is a move such as A + F in the first fret, then lifting the bar for a zero fret chord while at the same time either releasing the A pedal for a 7th chord or releasing the F lever for a minor chord, then maybe hammering on....Bottom line, lifting the bar and lifting the correct foot or lever or whatever so totally overloads my brain that there's no telling what I might lift or move. It's like suddenly my body is someone else's and I've got no muscle control. I'm as likely to jerk upright and knock over the steel as get this right.
Well, back to practicing my head pat/tummy rub drills. |
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Steve Norman
From:
Seattle Washington, USA
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 4:59 pm
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Andy is your A ped higher than the rest? this helps me
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Jonathan Cullifer
From:
Gallatin, TN
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 5:29 pm
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| Bob Kagy wrote: |
| LKV by itself and LKV plus LKL, or LKV moving to LKL. But I can still do it |
Same thing. Although since I play a Day setup it's LKV and LKR because of the way the lever is angled. LKV and LKL is fairly easy here. |
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 1 Jan 2008 7:51 pm
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The hardest change for me to make is on the extra LKL on my E9, regardless of what the change is!
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