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Bud Harger


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Belton, Texas by way of Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Post  Posted 21 Nov 2007 8:53 am    
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I am still trying to reach Kieth Hilton about these questions, but I know he's quite busy. I thought that I would try the Forum as well.

Questions:
1) When the pedal is down (toward the full-on position) and I take my foot off of the pedal, the pedal rises (closes) toward the near-off position. Is there a way to adjust the movement of the pedal to neutral pressure, so that the pedal stays where it is when my foot is lifted off of it?

2) I want to reduce the amount of volume that is present in the full-off position of my pedal. I see the dials on the bottom that read "Off Point" and "Volume". Before I mess things up, can you tell me if I should really try to change it and which dials do what?

Thanks for your help.

bUd
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Larry Strawn


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Golden Valley, Arizona, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 21 Nov 2007 9:23 am     Hilton pedal
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Bud,
I can't speak for Kieth, and if I'm wrong I'm sure someone will correct me. I seem to remember Kieth addressing the question at one time about the pedal returning to the off position, and saying it is designed to do that.

My info sheet that came with my pedal stated that the controls on the bottom of the pedal are preset. I've found that the "off" control is mainly personal preference and can be adjusted as such.

Some of the folks who are more knowlegable, or Kieth himself will probably be along shortly and may be of more help.

It's a great pedal. I love mine, and Kieth's product support has been fantastic.
Very Happy
Larry
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Calvin Walley


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colorado city colorado, USA
Post  Posted 21 Nov 2007 9:30 am    
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mine had started staying on slightly last night in the off position (most likely from being bumped around so much) i just turned it over and ajusted the volume setting... its very easy. i don't ever change the other 2 setting's
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Brint Hannay

 

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Maryland, USA
Post  Posted 21 Nov 2007 11:21 am    
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When the pedal is down (toward the full-on position) and I take my foot off of the pedal, the pedal rises (closes) toward the near-off position. Is there a way to adjust the movement of the pedal to neutral pressure, so that the pedal stays where it is when my foot is lifted off of it?

That's my only complaint with the Hilton pedal (and the Goodrich LDR, which I also have): The difficulty of getting it to stay where it is when taking your foot off it or putting your foot back on.

It just seems to float too easily. It's been a while since I stopped using my old Sho-Bud pedal--it's the pedal rack mounted kind, so I can't use it with my non-Sho-Bud guitars Sad --but it seems to me the resistance from the string/pot mechanism made it much more user-friendly in this particular way.

Luckily, I only play E9th, so this problem has very little effect on my playing, but it helps discourage me when I try to fool around with the C6th.

I wonder if there could be a way to make the resistance to movement adjustable?

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I want to reduce the amount of volume that is present in the full-off position of my pedal. I see the dials on the bottom that read "Off Point" and "Volume". Before I mess things up, can you tell me if I should really try to change it and which dials do what?

The "Off Point" control is the one you want to adjust. "Volume" adjusts how hot the signal coming out of the pedal is overall. Just remember where it's set before you change it, so you can undo the change if you don't like it.
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Bill Stroud

 

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Dresden, Tennessee, USA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 21 Nov 2007 12:16 pm     Hilton Pedal
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Yes you can adjust the amount or no sound in the off position.
Also to get the feel you want and the volume to stay put tighten the screws on the side of the volume pedal just a little bit at a time until you get what you are looking for, then it will stay in the position you want when taking your foot off of it.
Try it and let me know if it worked for you.
Don't overtighten the screws or it will be too stiff to play with it.
Bill
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Morton Kellas

 

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Chazy, NY, USA 1
Post  Posted 21 Nov 2007 12:18 pm    
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After several months of use, my Hilton pedal would return to the off position when I removed my foot from it. I tightened the two screws on the side very slightly and it has been going great ever since. This may not be the right way to fix the problem, but it worked for me.
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Bud Harger


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Belton, Texas by way of Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Post  Posted 21 Nov 2007 1:16 pm     Thanks!
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Thanks guys, for the information. I will try the suggestions tonight and report back in this thread on how it goes.

Is the Forum a great place or what?

bUd
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John Cadeau

 

From:
Surrey,B.C. Canada
Post  Posted 21 Nov 2007 5:24 pm     About My Hilton Volume Pedal
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Bud: Sometimes after you have used a Hilton pedal for a while the clutch mechanism for the pedal may need to be adjusted. To do this you push the pedal all the way down, look in the back end of the pedal. You will see a large phillips head screw. This is the clutch adjustment for the pedal. Try turning it counter clockwise until the pedal stays where you want it to. That is what this screw is for. Turning the screw cockwise has the opposite effect. I wouldn't mess around with the pivot screws on the side of the pedal.
John
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Jack Stoner


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Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 22 Nov 2007 3:49 am    
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Some of the Hiltons were shipped with a grease on the "clutch" part (plastic part) that hits the top pedal cover. Keith has said to clean off any grease as it's not needed. You have to take the top piece off to do this. When you put the top piece back on, tighten the two mounting screws (tight) and you should be back in business and the pedal won't move when you take your foot off of it. I had that on mine and that was the instructions I got from Keith about 2 years ago - haven't had a problem since.
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Bud Harger


From:
Belton, Texas by way of Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Post  Posted 2 Jan 2008 6:47 am     Solutions...
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Happy New Year greetings from Texas!

I promised feedback on the resolution of my problem. I tried the "tighten screws on side" recommendation and it worked for me. The right-side screw (plug-in side) didn't help at all, even though I tightened it quite a bit. I put it back where it was and moved to the left-side screw. That worked great.

I haven't tried the Cadeau or Stoner solutions, yet. I've printed them out and stored them in my pack-seat. I've ordered a new Hilton and I hope the problem has been solved by Keith. We'll see.

These are really outstanding pedals.

Thanks to everybody!

bUd
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