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Topic: Looking for help with common walks between 1-4and5 chords |
Jett Cornett
From: Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2007 2:38 am
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I asked this question in the tablature forum and was told to ask here also for more answers. I am trying to take my playing from the practice room to the stage. I have tons of licks that I am working with, but the basic chord scale walks that I hear in almost all recordings are messing with me. If some one could help with examples in the key of G between the 1 chord and the 4 or the 5 chord to the 1, or any other combination would be very helpful. I am at everyones mercy, because I can't seem to figure it out on my own. And I can't use my licks without jumping around, and chopping up the song into runs, instead of flowing into runs like the steel is made to be played. thanks |
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George Kimery
From: Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2007 4:39 am Need Help with 1 to 4 and 1 to 5 chord changes
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I have a booklet titled 1 to 4 chord changes. I think it came with a cassette tape. I got it quite a few years ago from Frenchy's Steel Guitar shop in Belen, NM. I don't know if it is still available or not. Also, learn the scales. You can make some nice changes by just running scales from one change to the other. |
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Ron Page
From: Penn Yan, NY USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2007 5:53 am
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Welcome to my world, Jett.
I'm just dusting off the steel after about 3-4 years of foresaking it for the golf course... I going back over some of the many courses that I have and learning them right this time. Jeff Newman's "Just Play The Melody" is the sort of thing you need. It won't teach you any new licks--you've got plenty of them-- but it will show you the melody/scale patterns and how they work over a chord progression. You'll then better understand how those licks you're mimicking were originated.
To go from a I to a IV or V in G start at the 3rd fret--any of the (G) major chord grips. Slide up 3 frets and engage your F-lever (raises E's) and the A-pedal (raises B's); still a G. Slide up to the 8th freight releasing both pedal and lever; that's C. Try it with only 2 string for less harmony. The D position is two frets up... then pedals back down and you're back to G.
What Jeff's course shows you is that there are many other intermediate scale positions other than those major chord stops I described. Those are the scales that make your playing interesting and melodic. _________________ HagFan
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Dan Burnham
From: Greenfield, Tennessee
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Posted 12 Dec 2007 6:35 am Backup Pedal Steel Guitar by Mr. Scott
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Jett
The book I'm going to recommend to you was what got me interested in steel. This book does an excellent job of fills moving from one chord to another focusing on phrases backing up the singer and in between.
Mel Bay's Back Up Pedal Steel Guitar * E9th
http://www.scottysmusic.com/scotymb01.htm
This is excellent,
Dan (BMI) _________________ BMI S12 Zane Beck's Tuning
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James Morehead
From: Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 12 Dec 2007 7:58 am
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Jett, You are welcome to come over and pick with me for an afternoon some time, just get a hold of me. |
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Antolina
From: Dunkirk NY
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Posted 12 Dec 2007 8:43 am
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Jeff,
You may not want to hear my solution to that problem. I spent the better part of the 70s and 80s memorizing licks and phrases and developing my own horrible style. Subsequently, I never quite got the hang of "what to do next" or how to "get out of trouble" because I didn't understand the instrument. I always envied those players that could sit in with any band and be comfortable.
After a forced ten year layoff, I'm back and this time I'm commited to doing it right. I'm currently working on Jeff Newman's "Techniques DVD" and a whole new world is opening up. I've sinced changed my grips, picking and blocking styles and for the first time, I'm understanding the whys and wherefores of this amazing instrument. _________________ The only thing better than doing what you love is having someone that loves you enough to let you do it.
Sho~Bud 6139 3+3
Marrs 3+4
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Fred Glave
From: McHenry, Illinois, USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2007 2:01 pm
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I purchased Jim Loessbergs, "15 ways to get from a I chord to IV chord" here on the Forum from bOb. It's great. When you know how to run scales from I to VI, then you'll know how to do them from V to I as well. The thing is that, if you just practice all of your scales using 1,2, or more strings, you'll have what it takes to get anywhere you want to go with a little modification here or there. Use a tape recorder, and with a 6 string guitar, play and record some chord progressions..I to IV, I to IV and so on. Make the recordings repetitive and long, and just play your steel along to them. When you get good, move on and record other chord progressions to play along to. |
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