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Topic: Age of Fender 400 |
Bob Knight
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Bowling Green KY
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Posted 26 Nov 2007 8:32 am |
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It has the chrome stamped pedals(4), roller nut, cam type changer, 23" scale, sunburst.(not poly gloss)
Serial# 01600, anyone know what year this was built?
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BTW, It is for sale 
Thanks
Bob
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 26 Nov 2007 4:05 pm
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| 1963 or 64... Sunburst started in 63, however your stamped pedals indicate a probable transition model as most burst 400's had cast pedals, but some early ones used the "leftover" stamped pedals.... bob |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 26 Nov 2007 4:53 pm
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| Bob Carlucci wrote: |
| 1963 or 64... Sunburst started in 63, however your stamped pedals indicate a probable transition model as most burst 400's had cast pedals, but some early ones used the "leftover" stamped pedals.... bob |
Is the same true of 1000's? Mine is sunburst with stamped pedals, roller nut and bridge.
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Bill A. Moore
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Silver City, New Mexico, USA
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Posted 26 Nov 2007 4:56 pm
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| Seems like this is the brother of mine, I would have to look to be sure, but I think my ser.# is 1599! |
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Clyde Mattocks
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Kinston, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 26 Nov 2007 6:12 pm
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| At serial #01712, they still had sunburst with stamped pedals. I have it. |
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Craig Stenseth
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Naperville, Illinois, USA
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Eric Jaeger
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Oakland, California, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2007 12:13 pm
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Another 'burst 400 with stamped pedals. Either we all found a secret stash of them or, judging by the numbers showing up here, there were a lot more made than just 63-64.
-eric |
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Jim Sliff
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Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2007 5:29 am
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Serial numbers are irrelevant. According to Fender there is no specific sequence to them at all. Having had a half-dozen of various types of 400's and 1000's I can vouch for the serial number situation - it seems like they just stamped numbers in on a group of frames in sequence, but used them up in no particular order over a period of several years. Pot codes also don't mean much, as they bought pots in bulk and the 1 meg pots were only used in steels - and a single purchase must have lasted them for many years.
The cam changer and short scale (with Jag-style pickup) was phased in during late '63/early '64, with the earliest ones having chrome pedals. Officially, sunburt short-scale models were 1964's; long-scale sunbursts appear to be made no earlier....or later...than '63 (I have one identical to b0b's and there have been quite a few of those around). As noted, ones with chrome pedals are fairly unusual "transitional" models made when Fender was using up parts..that'd likely place it as a late '63.
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Eric Jaeger
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Oakland, California, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2007 8:05 am
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Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant that I too have a sunburst 400 with stamped pedals, and that there are an awfully large number of sunbursts with stamped pedals showing up in this topic.
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2007 6:29 pm
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| By 65 they all had cast pedals... From the info I have on the Fender steels it is a 63 or early-mid 64,,, As Jim S said, serial #'s on Fender pedal steels are not much help... bob |
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james sluder
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2007 8:31 pm
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I have a 400 long scale with black cast pedals.
sunburst & black . really sweet sound with it..with orignal fender volume pedal..  |
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Jim Sliff
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Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 1 Dec 2007 2:36 pm
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| I have a 400 long scale with black cast pedals. |
That would have to be a conversion someone did...or it's the only example seen with long-scale guts (bar or roller bridge, "hog rings", rectangular "Jazzmaster" type pickup, 24 1/2" scale) and SS pedals!
Love to see a picture of it!
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1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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