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Michael Haselman


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Post  Posted 29 Nov 2007 9:16 am    
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How many have this? I'm working through BE's "Blue Eyes" and in order to get the smooth changes on some parts he used this split with the B pedal to get, well Gm on fret 3, strings 10-8-6, for one. Is there a lot more applications for this lever?
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Allan Thompson

 

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Post  Posted 29 Nov 2007 10:11 am    
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Michael,
Used with the Eb knee lever gives you a five chord at the one chord no pedal position.
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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 29 Nov 2007 11:47 am    
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Allan Thompson wrote:

Used with the Eb knee lever gives you a five chord at the one chord no pedal position.

For that reason, I have the G#->F# lower on P1 (Eb lever on LKL). I love it.
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Brint Hannay

 

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Post  Posted 29 Nov 2007 11:47 am    
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The G#->F# lever can be used melodically from the no-pedals position in the same way as the A pedal in the pedals-down position. (e.g. Pressing the lever from a C chord at the 8th fret is the same as releasing the A pedal from a C at the 3rd fret.)
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Dave Stagner


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Post  Posted 29 Nov 2007 12:40 pm    
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Charlie McDonald wrote:
Allan Thompson wrote:

Used with the Eb knee lever gives you a five chord at the one chord no pedal position.

For that reason, I have the G#->F# lower on P1 (Eb lever on LKL). I love it.


Huh. I was just thinking that. And here I told myself I wouldn't go messing with the standard E9 copedent until I knew what I was doing... I may just have to try that one!
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Michael Haselman


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Post  Posted 29 Nov 2007 2:21 pm    
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Just listen to "Blue Eyes" on the Steel Swinging CD and there's some gorgeous transitions he's getting using that change, lowering a half step with that B pedal split. Of course, it is Mr. Emmons, after all.
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Lee Baucum


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Post  Posted 29 Nov 2007 7:26 pm    
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Use that lever to lower the G# a whole step, in conjunction with the lever that lowers the E's a half-step, along with both the A pedal and the B pedal.

What did that give you?
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Gary Shepherd


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Post  Posted 29 Nov 2007 8:11 pm    
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Let's call the lever G# to F# lever L and E to D# lever D. Now at the 3rd fret, L+D = a D chord. Letting off the L lever creates a passing chord as you move to 3DB which would be a D7.

So with that lever, you can move from a D to D7 with a nice passing chord sound between them.

I also use it in melodies.
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Tim Harr


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Post  Posted 30 Nov 2007 6:46 am    
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oooops....Double post....


See next


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Tim Harr


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Post  Posted 30 Nov 2007 6:48 am    
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RKL =
1st string F# > G#
2d string D#(Eb) > E


as it relates to strings 1 & 2, this is how I use this lever with these changes.


I put that change on my guitars about 10 years ago at the recommendation of John Hughey and further recommendation by Bobbe Seymour. Before that, I was just pulling 1st string F# > G# to get some PF licks.. back in the 90's that change was all over the place. Smile

This lever beats the "physically" pulling the string with the fingers on the bar hand like I used to...to get a b7 with AB down


Some (Tommy White, I think is one) split this (1 & 2 string pull) into a lever and pedal.

Using the pull both on same lever and in the same context as John Hughey. Listen to "The Key" CD by Vince Gill and you will hear what I mean.
I love the sound I get from the 2d string Eb>E with AB pedals down.


In the process of putting the PF Ped 4 changes on my guitar now. I know that most have this already...

Guess I am just lazy Smile However, Mike Johnson's work with Artists and his own projects have motivated me to get this on there.

In the past, I have been playing PF style licks (mostly Alan Jackson tunes) with this...but have been "faking" it up now.


Looking forward to experimenting with raising 8th string to F#..
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