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Topic: Setup for tall Players? |
Sigi Meissner
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Duebendorf, Switzerland
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Posted 15 Nov 2007 1:08 am |
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A friend of mine wanted to have his first steel lesson. He's 6.4 feet tall. After extending all four legs on my Sho-Bud Super Pro for about 3 inches I determined that the distance of the floor pedal to the ground was much to high. It was kinda hanging in the air. Seems it is given by the fix length of the pedal rods. Is to order longer pedal rods the only way to maintain the floor board on the same position as before?
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Stephen Gambrell
From:
Over there
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Posted 15 Nov 2007 1:44 am
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| There are kits available to raise the legs and pedals. Bobbe Seymour sells them. |
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Rick Abbott
From:
Indiana, USA
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Posted 15 Nov 2007 6:57 am
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I'm 6'4" and play a Sho~Bud; I,raised mine 2 inches and use a Goodrich 120-L which is lower than a standard volume pedal by an inch or so. Having a tall enough seat is very important too. His legs need to end up with a roughly 90 degree bend at the knee. Bobbe Seymour is your man!!
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Sho~Bud D-10 Professional #7962
Remington T-8, Sehy #112
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Darvin Willhoite
From:
Roxton, Tx. USA
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Posted 15 Nov 2007 8:44 am
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All of my steels have to be 2" higher than standard. I have had some with pedal rod extenders, but most have the correct length rods. I make setcollars to keep the leg clutches from slipping. I ordered my new MSA's and my Fessenden with the correct length legs.
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Darvin Willhoite
MSA Millennium, Legend, and Studio Pro, Reese's restored Universal Direction guitar, a restored MSA Classic SS, several amps, new and old, and a Kemper Powerhead that I am really liking. Also a Zum D10, a Mullen RP, and a restored Rose S10, named the "Blue Bird". Also, I have acquired and restored the plexiglass D10 MSA Classic that was built as a demo in the early '70s. I also have a '74 lacquer P/P, with wood necks, and a showroom condition Sho-Bud Super Pro. |
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Dave Mudgett
From:
Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 15 Nov 2007 11:43 am
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Yup, 6'4" here also, I need 2" or 3" worth of lift, depending on the guitar. I also use the liftkit extenders from Bobbe Seymour.
If you know you have a "keep for life" steel, perhaps it makes sense to just get new pedal rods made. I may do that when I'm pretty sure I'm settled. But the way I've traded steels the last few years, that wouldn't make much sense. The liftkits can be easily put on and taken off, so when you trade to someone who wants it "regular", it's easy. |
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Scott Henderson
From:
Camdenton, Missouri, USA
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Posted 15 Nov 2007 2:16 pm
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I do an inch and a half. If I needed to fix a guitar on a temporary basis(jammin) I usually raise the back legs and stick something about half to 3/4 of an inch under the front legs. It angles it enough you can raise the back and get under it.
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Rex Myers
From:
Risingsun Ohio, USA
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Posted 15 Nov 2007 4:22 pm
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6'4"also.. I got a lift Kit from Bobby S for the Kline.
I was able to adjust the BMI Might be because the BMI is a Dble wide 
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Joe Butcher
From:
Dallas,Texas, USA
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Posted 15 Nov 2007 4:59 pm
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I'm 6' 5" and had new rods made 3" longer than standard.
I've used extender kits before, but they feel structurally weak and they're ugly too.
You can make extensions yourself by going to a hardware store and buying extended nuts and all-thread, for 2 or 3 dollars rather than paying someone
3 times as much for the same. |
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Frederic Mabrut
From:
Olloix, France
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Sigi Meissner
From:
Duebendorf, Switzerland
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Posted 16 Nov 2007 6:31 am
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Hi Frederic, thnx for posting
the pic.
(And thnx to the other forumates for helpful ideas)
I did not know that there is no standard length for pedal rods since I have perchuased a Sho-Bud Superpro as an occasinally good deal from a deduction of an instrument collector. The thicknes of the rods are 4,2 mm wich is 4 inches. So it has to be a Sho-Bud
dimensioned extension kit. How thick are your rods?
In case I go for new longer pedal rods, where can I buy them?
Thnx for further help |
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Clarence Wilson
From:
morgantown wv usa
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Posted 16 Nov 2007 10:32 am Tall pickers
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I too, am over 6 ft. 2 inches. I make my own rods. I go to the local Lowes store and purchase the rods.
Cut a quarter inch hole 3/8 inch from the end of a 1/2
water pipe about 8 inches long to use for a bending tool. Clamp the rod in a vise and bend a hook in it, using the same angle as the original. Cut the rod to the desired length. Then thread the end, using a hand threader and oil. Some rods look nice enough. Others
need painted. On my Mullen, I painted the rods black to match the black guitar.
While at the store, buy a 5 ft. section of black plastic water pipe. Cut off two sections the same size as was added to the rods. These slip over the front legs above the pedal board. The overall effect is quite pleasing. I've done this to all my guitars for years, so have about 6 sets packed away.
My Carter came with the proper added length, tho.
I have owned Universal 12 guitars since 1990.
The extra 11 and 12 strings stick above the rest of the strings because they are not fitted to the rollers. I take a small three-sided file and using a vice, lower the slot to fit the string. It doesn't take much. Those two rollers don't move, so a small portion needs to be filed down. Take a used, or spare string, and saw it back and forth to fit the final job. Paint the fitted portion using a Scripo. so you can see the portion you've worked with.
My strings are all practically even at the nut when
the bar is laying upon them.
My favorite guitar is the Mullen. Mainly because the pedals are a bit further apart than the Carter. The Mullen has the pad, the Carter doesn't. I don't use the pad, so I don't notice any difference. I rest my right hand on the 12th. string, and have a callus to show for it.
CEW
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John Steele
From:
Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 16 Nov 2007 10:49 am
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My regular guitar is raised an inch, but I have a spare one which I'd never gotten around to raising.
Last week I raised it with some help from Steel Guitars of Canada (thanks Al), and it feels like a whole new instrument. My habit of tilting it away from me raised the fronts of the pedals too much, so now that's gone. The other thing that made a huge difference was, now by contacting the knee levers a little further away from the undercarriage, they seem alot less stiff than they were. Slightly longer travel, but easier to activate. Two thumbs up.
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Tim Kowalski
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 16 Nov 2007 11:40 am
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I have raised 2 guitars for myself. They both have 10-32 thread on the rods. The hex extenders are available at Grainger Industrial Supply (across USA) in packs of 10 for around 15.00. You can select the length by 1/4" increments. This can save big bux when extending 8 pedal rods on a double neck. They are normally used in the electronics industry as stand-offs for circuit boards.
Grainger doesn't sell to the general public, so you would need to know someone with an account, or set one up to buy.
I am 6'3" and the 2" extenders were plenty for me.
One other problem that I had was that my leg clutches were allowing some slip when mashing the pedals. I cut two short sleeves from PVC tube to fit over the leg between the collar and the pedal bar.
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Frederic Mabrut
From:
Olloix, France
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KENNY KRUPNICK
From:
Columbus, Ohio
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Posted 17 Nov 2007 6:40 pm
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6'4" tall. All 3 steels raised by factory made longer rods,or a Bobbe Seymour lift kit.  |
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