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Bill Dobkins


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Post  Posted 25 Oct 2007 5:43 pm    
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Is there a standard to which pedals should be set from one another.
I have the travel,tension ect. just the way I want on my Derby. I'm having a little trouble getting off my A&B pedals when i rock back and forth. I have set them level, up and down and so on. they seem to be too close to me. I've ran this thread before and got a lot of good advice. I was just wondering if anyone ever moved thier pedals farther apart.
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Bob Cox


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Post  Posted 25 Oct 2007 7:09 pm    
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Bill this will help but if you ever sell it you may have to get a couple of neww pedals.The Quick fix is to file or saw 1/4" off your a and b pedals on the side that faces one another.This will give you 1/2" inch new space between them.You will notice imediately the difference in not touching the other pedal.That is a small amount but it makes a big difference.Show Bud had a fairly wide space between their pedals.I wouldn,t worry a whole lot about the c pedal,but I guess you could Hot Rod it too.
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Bill Dobkins


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Post  Posted 25 Oct 2007 8:20 pm    
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Hi, Bob how are you doing ? Thanks , I've heard that Buddy used to do this. I actually cured my F lever/A pedal problem by moving the F lever toward the Keyhead an inch, this really helped. I ordered another crossrod from Chas Step and it worked out nice. Now I'm haveing a little trouble with the B when I rock to A. I may try this because I have an extra pedal. I guess my feet are to big.. Oh Well
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Steve Norman


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Post  Posted 25 Oct 2007 8:39 pm    
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I might be missing the question here. I keep my a pedal resting a lot higher than my b. I started doing this because The other guys I was around when I started did. Now that I am used to it it seems more natural. Dont have to rotate my ankle so far to the left to get the a
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James Morehead


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Post  Posted 25 Oct 2007 8:48 pm    
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I, too, set my A pedal a little higher(not too much) than my B pedal. I play the wide shobud pedals and love them. I tried the narrow pedals, they are not for me. But, what ever you get used to. Cool
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Ron Page

 

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Post  Posted 26 Oct 2007 8:03 am    
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I set my A (Emmons setup) slightly higher, but sometimes even a thick-sole shoe can make it tougher for me to get off the B and on the A only. If you put the A too much higher then the problem is reversed.

Joe Wright taught me the trick of going LKL and B-pedal. Sounds easy enough until you try it.

... give up? Okay, now try lifting your heel slightly off the floor. Wink
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Michael Pierce


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Post  Posted 26 Oct 2007 8:36 am     pedal spacing
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Bill, I had the same problem when I moved from a Mullen to my old LeGrande (I've sinced moved on to a push-pull). The A and B pedals on the LeGrande seemed way too close for me and so after careful measuring I asked Tom Cass to grind down the inside of each of the A and B pedals about 1/4" and it made it much easier for me to accurately hit the A pedal (I was always treading on the A when I only wanted to hit the B). LeGrande pedals are fairly easy to come by and changeable so when it comes time to trade or sell, it is a fairly low cost process to replace the pedals for the new owner. I now have my old LeGrande B pedal on my desk at work as a paperweight!
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Bill Dobkins


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Post  Posted 26 Oct 2007 7:05 pm    
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As I understand it, the Lashley Legrand pedals are very close to the Derby in design. I'm going to try taking the 1/4 " off. Pedals don't cost that much if I screw up. I don't worry about my C pedal because I put the 4th raise on my RRL. It gives me a better effect.I can use it with my A plus F lever, With A&B pedals. Several neat Combos.
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Jerry Overstreet


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Post  Posted 26 Oct 2007 7:42 pm    
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You might want to check with Charlie. He built guitars for a long time with either narrow or wide pedals. He may have some of the narrow ones left which, I believe, were 5/8" v 7/8" on the ones you most likely have. For several years, both sizes were offered, as some preferred the smaller ones, particularly with the Emmons setup according to Charlie.

It seemed most guys liked the wider ones though, so I believe the smaller ones were discontinued. I defer to Charlie on that, however.

FWIW, my Derby had the narrow ones when I got it, but the larger ones worked best for me. I had Mr. Stepp swap them out.
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Calvin Walley


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Post  Posted 26 Oct 2007 7:52 pm    
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Bill
i always had trouble rocking the A - B pedals untill
i took my steel to Mullen and had all the pedals moved one space to the right ...meaning they moved my A pedal to where the B was and moved the B to where the C was and moved the C over one pedal space . it was the best $ 160.00 i have ever spent on a steel guitar
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 27 Oct 2007 7:22 am    
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I have a brand of steel that has the wider pedals. I had trouble hanging up on the A pedal when I rocked onto the B.
I just cut the right corner off of the A pedal at a 45 degree angle and that took care of it.

If you remember, there were some early Sho~Buds that came from the factory this way.
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Bill Dobkins


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Post  Posted 27 Oct 2007 11:35 am    
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OK, I took the plunge. I cut my pedals at an angle as you suggested and it works great. Thanks so much for your input.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 27 Oct 2007 12:38 pm    
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If you wear shoes that look like canal boats, it exacerbates this problem! Laughing

I'd think long and hard before I ever sawed or ground my pedals. If you must do that type of thing, buy an extra pedal NOW (while they're easily available and cheap), so you can fix the "damage" if you ever decide to sell the steel. I've passed on several potential buys because owners had done this type of butchery to their guitars.
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Bill Dobkins


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Post  Posted 27 Oct 2007 2:36 pm    
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Thanks Donny, But I actually have another set of pedals and these were my old ones.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 27 Oct 2007 4:00 pm    
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In that case...hack away! Cool
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 28 Oct 2007 5:41 am    
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Bill,
Glad you took my advice.
Cutting off that corner a little bit is usually all it takes. Very Happy
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