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Topic: stringmaster w/o legs? |
Ron Victoria
From:
New Jersey, USA
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Posted 18 Oct 2007 2:55 am |
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The seller said this didn't have any leg sockets. Did Fender make them without legs?
Auction on eBay.
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Michael Johnstone
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Sylmar,Ca. USA
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Posted 18 Oct 2007 3:36 am Hack Job
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| That's a neck off of a multi neck-Stringmaster.If it has no leg sockets,it's the middle neck of a triple or quad.If it's off a double,it'll have 2 sockets unless the sockets have been removed and the holes filled.The body shape,scale length and chrome diamonds are a dead givaway(they hide the bolts that connect the bodies of a multi-neck together and are un-necessary on a factory single) |
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 18 Oct 2007 7:12 am
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This is a guitar I made from a section of a multi-neck Stringmaster. It had two leg sockets and I routed it out for a 3rd, center leg. The guitar is more set together now than when the picture was taken.
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Bill Leff
From:
Santa Cruz, CA, USA
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Posted 18 Oct 2007 7:23 am
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I like your taste in carpets Erv!
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 18 Oct 2007 7:27 am
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| Thanks, Bill! |
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 28 Oct 2007 7:53 am
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Well--this went for a startling $711.00. As an orphan Stringmaster neck, I expected a lot lower final price. I'd have loved to have it for a project but......
The buyer's Ebay activity indicates that he's not a novice so maybe he's got a better idea of the market than I do.
Unfortunately for him, a desperate bidder really jacked the final price at the end---I hate when that happens. (I'm not complaining. But it's so tantalizing when you think you've got a nice price and then someone bids and bids and bids in the last minute and still doesn't outbid you, resulting in nothing but a higher price---which always leads to the unsubstantiated suspicion that there's shill bidding involved.) |
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Alan Brookes
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Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 28 Oct 2007 9:59 am
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I don't think it's a Stringmaster, though it may be part of one.  Stringmasters were only made in 2, 3 or 4 neck configurations. The single neck models were known as the Deluxe-6 and Deluxe-8. You can usually distinguish between a Deluxe-8, and a Stringmaster which has been separated, by the control panel, which is rounded at the bottom on a Deluxe.
Compare this picture of the one sold to the conversion above.
I'm not familiar with every version of the Triple-neck Stringmaster, but it seems to me that this is a Deluxe-8.
...but Deluxe-8s usually had three legs....
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| That's a neck off of a multi neck-Stringmaster.If it has no leg sockets,it's the middle neck of a triple or quad.If it's off a double, it'll have 2 sockets unless the sockets have been removed and the holes filled.The body shape,scale length and chrome diamonds are a dead givaway(they hide the bolts that connect the bodies of a multi-neck together and are un-necessary on a factory single) |
I see your point about the legs, and the triangles would be unnecessary on a Deluxe. I would like to find out what the body depth is. On Stringmasters, as you know, the bodies of the necks had different depths so that the playing position was higher with each successive neck. |
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Alan Brookes
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Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 28 Oct 2007 4:14 pm
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| Alan F. Brookes wrote: |
| ...You can usually distinguish between a Deluxe-8, and a Stringmaster which has been separated, by the control panel, which is rounded at the bottom on a Deluxe... |
Since I wrote this I've been looking at the Stringmaster I'm working on. The control panels for a Stringmaster and a Deluxe-8 ARE different, but not in the way I mentioned.  |
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 28 Oct 2007 10:03 pm
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| Alan F. Brookes wrote: |
| The control panels for a Stringmaster and a Deluxe-8 ARE different, but not in the way I mentioned. |
I take back what I said originally. I've been doing some research. Here is what the control panel of a Deluxe-8 looks like...
(from an auction currently on eBay.)
Michael was right first time. It's the middle neck off a 3-Necked Stringmaster. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 29 Oct 2007 6:33 am
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| I was looking at this guitar and would have liked to have had it. But not at anywheres close to the price it went for. I would have put legs on it and that would have meant buying and installing three leg brackets and legs, which would have driven the total investment up even more. Also the bridge cover is missing and finding one of those is like looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack. |
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 29 Oct 2007 4:57 pm
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This conversion raises another question....
The diamonds are only found on the outside necks. If this is the center neck and has the diamonds on, then there must be two necks around with missing diamonds.
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| ... Also the bridge cover is missing and finding one of those is like looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack. |
They're almost always missing for some reason. Maybe someone should make a batch for sale to collectors. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 30 Oct 2007 6:43 am
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Alan,
There has been some discussion about making bridge covers in the past. I think the cost is prohibitive for the tooling required to make them.
On the early Stringmasters, the covers were screwed down to the body of the guitar and were hardly ever removed.
On the later models, the cover was just attached to the ends of the bridge rod (so they could pivot to allow access to the blending knob) and were easily removed, for what reason I don't know. |
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Brad Bechtel
From:
San Francisco, CA
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Posted 30 Oct 2007 7:45 am
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I would guess the bridge covers were made removable at the request of those players who liked picking close to the bridge, or who found that the bridge covers interefered with their normal hand position.
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 30 Oct 2007 8:28 am
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It is my guess that most of them were removed and used as ash trays.  |
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John Dahms
From:
Perkasie, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 30 Oct 2007 9:11 am
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They sometimes vibrate and buzz (the bridge covers). If you have multiple necks it can be frustrating.
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Pat Keiner
From:
Chicago, Illinois
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Posted 30 Oct 2007 6:41 pm
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Jon,
Just wanted to let you know that I was the 'desperate bidder' and was trying to purchase it for my husband and was outbid at the last minute by the winner (who was also 'swooping' in at the last second). So, no shill bidding going on there - although my husband was shocked at how much it did go for (and glad I didn't go any higher).  |
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 30 Oct 2007 6:51 pm
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| Brad Bechtel wrote: |
| I would guess the bridge covers were made removable at the request of those players who liked picking close to the bridge, or who found that the bridge covers interefered with their normal hand position. |
I think you're right, Brad. |
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Bill Creller
From:
Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
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Posted 30 Oct 2007 7:16 pm
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| The Hawaiian players, like Feet Rogers,Gabby Pahinui, Bobby Ingano etc, like some muted playing, so they remove the covers. But most likely, others just took them off for whatever reason and lost them. |
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