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Tim Harr


From:
Dunlap, Illinois
Post  Posted 22 Sep 2007 1:52 pm    
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What are your observations between the Blue Marvel (Stock in the NV 112) and the Black Widow 12" speaker?


What do you hear different?


Thanks!


Tim
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George Redmon


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Muskegon & Detroit Michigan.
Post  Posted 23 Sep 2007 7:00 pm    
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Tim i put a BW 12" in my Nashville 112, i don't hear any tonal difference at all. But i like the peace of mind the BW gives me, when on the few occasions i do push the little 112. Also, the BW handles the lows much better, then the little stamped frame speaker. I actually use the Nashville for my church playing. But once in a while i do play an occasional jam, and with the BW i know it will cut right through the mix with the big boys amps.
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Jack Stoner


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Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 24 Sep 2007 3:53 am    
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The only thing a BW really adds to a NV112 is extra weight.

Maybe the new Neodymium magnet BW speakers wouldn't add much weight.
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Larry Scott


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Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 24 Sep 2007 5:07 am    
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George Redmon wrote:
Tim i put a BW 12" in my Nashville 112, i don't hear any tonal difference at all. But i like the peace of mind the BW gives me, when on the few occasions i do push the little 112. Also, the BW handles the lows much better, then the little stamped frame speaker. I actually use the Nashville for my church playing. But once in a while i do play an occasional jam, and with the BW i know it will cut right through the mix with the big boys amps.

witch BW speaker did you use? model # and what ohmm ?

thanks
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Mike Brown

 

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Meridian, Mississippi USA
Post  Posted 24 Sep 2007 5:29 am     BW Speaker
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The 1203-4 Black Widow will retrofit on existing Black Widow speakers. When the neo magnets become available, you will be able to change them out with the stock magnet. Hopefully, we will receive the shipment of neo magnets the latter part of this year.

Mike Brown
Peavey USA
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George Redmon


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Muskegon & Detroit Michigan.
Post  Posted 24 Sep 2007 7:01 am    
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What Mike Brown said...and i hardly notice any additional weight at all. It won't feel like lead..if it did, i wouldn't have kept it in. You won't notice the couple extra pounds. I did have to do some light disassembly of the amp to switch it out. But hey...no big deal, a 15 minute job. Just knowing the spider is in my amp, makes it sound better.
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Mike Brown

 

From:
Meridian, Mississippi USA
Post  Posted 24 Sep 2007 8:01 am     speaker
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Thanks for your assistance, George.
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Darvin Willhoite


From:
Roxton, Tx. USA
Post  Posted 24 Sep 2007 8:27 am    
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I tried a BW in my 112 and really couldn't tell any difference in sound either. It was about 6 or 8 lbs heavier, so I switched back to the Blue Marvel, to save all the weight I could. (I didn't want to use the BM acronym, someone may mistake it for meaning something else. LOL.)
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Darvin Willhoite
MSA Millennium, Legend, and Studio Pro, Reese's restored Universal Direction guitar, a restored MSA Classic SS, several amps, new and old, and a Kemper Powerhead that I am really liking. Also a Zum D10, a Mullen RP, and a restored Rose S10, named the "Blue Bird". Also, I have acquired and restored the plexiglass D10 MSA Classic that was built as a demo in the early '70s. I also have a '74 lacquer P/P, with wood necks, and a showroom condition Sho-Bud Super Pro.
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George Redmon


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Muskegon & Detroit Michigan.
Post  Posted 24 Sep 2007 11:46 am    
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I would estimate 5 to 6 pounds. And compared to my old Session 500, it's nothing. And i am still lighter then the guys that find it absolutly necessary to tote two Nashville 112's...it's nothing really. And when Mike gets our NEO baskets out to us..i will be within a couple of pound to the original weight of the Blue Marvel. Come'on January!
I figure on switching over all my amps, and Peavey PA cabs, and monitors to the new NEO. Thank You Mike, for coming up with these great innovations, that make Peavey the finest audio gear on the planet...NO EXCEPTIONS! Very Happy
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Darvin Willhoite


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Roxton, Tx. USA
Post  Posted 24 Sep 2007 3:11 pm    
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Yep, I'm another one waiting on the Neo Black Widows. This is kind of like when the Session 500's first came out. Wasn't it about two years from the time they first advertised them until they were actually available? It was worth the wait though. I bought mine new in 1981 and it still works perfectly today.
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Darvin Willhoite
MSA Millennium, Legend, and Studio Pro, Reese's restored Universal Direction guitar, a restored MSA Classic SS, several amps, new and old, and a Kemper Powerhead that I am really liking. Also a Zum D10, a Mullen RP, and a restored Rose S10, named the "Blue Bird". Also, I have acquired and restored the plexiglass D10 MSA Classic that was built as a demo in the early '70s. I also have a '74 lacquer P/P, with wood necks, and a showroom condition Sho-Bud Super Pro.
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Mike Brown

 

From:
Meridian, Mississippi USA
Post  Posted 25 Sep 2007 5:39 am     Neo Magnets
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If everything runs as scheduled, they should be here. Hope that I don't have to eat my words.....................
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Duane Dunard


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Troy, MO. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 25 Sep 2007 2:06 pm    
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I always have very high respect for Jack's opinion, and I bet he's exactly right-on in comparing his amp's tone. However, I had differn't results. The B.W. speaker changed the signature tone of my Nash-112 when played at moderate to very high volume levels. Perhaps at low level to mid-level volume the difference is minimal, but I confess, I play pretty loud on stage. Not that the Blue Marvel was bad, it's fine, but the B.W. is absolutely better for me.
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jeff reynolds


From:
Jackson, Ms.
Post  Posted 25 Sep 2007 9:54 pm     NshVille 112 for guitar gigs ??
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Is anyone using one of these for six string guitar?

I'd like to know if this little light weight amp can handle guitar gigs too and what kind of sound it gives a guitar.
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Bob Tuttle


From:
Republic, MO 65738
Post  Posted 26 Sep 2007 9:35 am    
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I've never tried a guitar through my Nashville 112, but in my experience I've found that it takes more amplifier for pedal steel than it does for guitar. So if it will handle the steel, it should easily handle a guitar gig. As far as getting the sound you want for guitar.......I don't know. Try it and see.
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Tom Gorr

 

From:
Three Hills, Alberta
Post  Posted 26 Sep 2007 8:03 pm     Re: NshVille 112 for guitar gigs ??
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jeff reynolds wrote:
Is anyone using one of these for six string guitar


I bought the Blue Marvel used in the N112 specifically for my 6 string gear.

Buttery sweet. I have top of the line guitars and amp gear. This speaker just did the trick for me.
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Kevin Hatton

 

From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
Post  Posted 26 Sep 2007 8:17 pm    
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I thought that the BW-12 was better than the Blue Marvel.
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Tom Gorr

 

From:
Three Hills, Alberta
Post  Posted 27 Sep 2007 8:54 am    
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Kevin Hatton wrote:
I thought that the BW-12 was better than the Blue Marvel.


I don't know what "better" is....

I like the way the BM sounds, and that is better than better.
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