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Larry Hillman

 

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New York, USA
Post  Posted 19 Nov 2007 11:19 am    
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the pickup on my 8 string bit the dust. so, will be
building a new one. this time i will be useing a
bar magnut. does anyone have a furmula for ohms to
tone. 42 ga. wire. i was told maybe 5000 turns. TKS
Larry
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Rick Collins

 

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Claremont , CA USA
Post  Posted 19 Nov 2007 12:38 pm    
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this time i will be useing a bar magnut.

Why not use a bar magnet? If you use a bar magnut, you'll never be able to keep those big squirrels off your guitar. Very Happy
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Gary Cosden


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Florida, USA
Post  Posted 21 Nov 2007 4:47 am    
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According to a magnet wire site I just visited #42 is 1,659 Dc OHM/1000 ft.
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Gary Lynch

 

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Creston, California, USA
Post  Posted 21 Nov 2007 6:43 am    
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This is a question for the Guru. If luck is with you, Rick Aiello may answer your question. He uses a #38 wire if I am mistaken, on some of his assemblies.

http://www.horseshoemagnets.com/_sgg/m1_1.htm
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Bill Creller

 

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Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 21 Nov 2007 9:07 am    
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Old Rick pickups must have been wound by eyeball engineering, like "that looks about like enough wire on there" I worked on two pre-war bakelites, one had 1277 ohms and the other had 1514 ohms. I have a late 40s 7 string that has 2100 ohms. For some odd reason, the low resistance windings seem to have great tone. Then again I have been using DiMarzio 7 string types that have 20.75K ohms. and they sound good too, so it's a good question as to what is the ideal winding.
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Gary Shepherd


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Fox, Oklahoma, USA
Post  Posted 23 Nov 2007 3:49 pm    
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What are you going to use for a bobbin? The old one?
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Jim Phelps

 

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Mexico City, Mexico
Post  Posted 23 Nov 2007 3:51 pm    
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The old ones had low resistance because they used the bigger wire, like the #38... lower resistance per turn than the small wire they use now, but the more turns you have, you also have more capacitance.
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Richard Sevigny


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Salmon Arm, BC, Canada
Post  Posted 23 Nov 2007 4:55 pm    
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Bill Lawrence's website has a lot of info on why pickups sound like they do.

This is my limited (and possibly wrong, please pipe in and correct me Oh Well ) understanding of p'ups: output seems to be a function of total resistance and magnetic field strenght - a hot pickup has a strong magnet and at least a moderate amount of resistance. Resistance also affects the frequency response of the pickup: the higher the resistance, the more trebly a pickup will tend to be. Tone is a function shape of the windings. A tall skinny bobbin (ie strat-shaped) has a thinner tone, while a shorter, squatter bobbin gives you a fatter tone.

At this point, I'm not sure of the effect of wire gauge on the equation.. Embarassed
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