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Topic: Add compensators to my Carter??? |
Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 24 Sep 2007 3:04 pm |
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How would I go about adding compensator rods to my Carter. I am not positive on how compensators physically work.
Thanks
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 24 Sep 2007 4:02 pm
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| before you get too involved...consider that i ended up removing all compensator rods from my '82 zumsteel within a year of buying it new, because they were unnecessary for me to play intune....just more junk cluttering things up! |
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Richard Sinkler
From:
aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 24 Sep 2007 4:25 pm
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Hi Chris,
We need to find a way to meet some time. I have relatives in Sacto. Thanks for the info. I was just in the thinking stage. My Carter pretty much plays in tune all the time. Just thought I would check into it.
Thanks
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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J D Sauser
From:
Wellington, Florida
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Posted 24 Sep 2007 5:14 pm
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Compensators are typically needed if you tune "Just" intonation, meaning that not all notes are tuned to a tuner... some, like major thirds are considerably flat (for more about that subject, search about just intonation on this Forum and also about the Jeff Newman tuning chart).
As this practice is chord based, depending on some pedal-knee lever combinations, some open strings will need to be detuned slightly. Typical is the the E9th middle F# which needs to be adjusted just a tad to match the B-pedaled G#-to-A pull (changing from a second to a minor third interval which needs to be a little wider).
So, all you'd need is a bell crank and a matching rod and rod up a very small pull for each compensation.
... J-D. |
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John Fabian
From:
Mesquite, Texas USA * R.I.P.
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Tommy Detamore
From:
Floresville, Texas
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Posted 25 Sep 2007 6:30 am
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And if you are talking about over-return compensators, don't worry, you don't need them on a Carter. I doubted it at first but it's true.....
How come John? 
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John Fabian
From:
Mesquite, Texas USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 25 Sep 2007 7:52 am
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| Proper design of the changer. |
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 25 Sep 2007 5:50 pm
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John is correct. The few Carters I've played did not need over-return compensators like some guitars do. My Mullen also does not need them.
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Lee, from South Texas - Down On The Rio Grande
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Ulf Edlund
From:
Umeå, Sweden
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Posted 27 Sep 2007 1:46 pm
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I really don't see why you should need compensators on any guitar.
If a string goes out of tune when you release it i'd think there was something wrong with it.
I've got an MSA classic SS (Bud Carter again) that returns perfecly without any kind of compensators.
I have an Emmons that needs compensators on some of the lowers to stay in tune.
Why is that?
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