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Topic: Bullet bar OK? |
Fred Kinbom
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Berlin, Germany, via Stockholm, Sweden.
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basilh
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Posted 9 Nov 2005 3:42 am |
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Hi Fred, that bar is for an 8 string lap steel and really is a little to small in diameter for the 10 string pedal steel.
Basil
Saying that, both Pat and I use that make of steel on our fender pedals steels..BUT they are 8 string, AND we are playing "Hawaiian" style.
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Fred Kinbom
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Posted 9 Nov 2005 3:54 am
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Thanks Basil! I have a 6-string lap steel (National New Yorker) - would this bar still be OK?
Fred |
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basilh
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Posted 9 Nov 2005 4:18 am
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Yes it would do, it's a bit narrow and too long..I would shorten it to about 2 7/8" the size of the Jim Dunlop -Jerry Byrd bar..It's only lightly chrome plated.you may find it better to invest straight away in a GOOD bar like the ones chuck Brattain makes here :-
http://www.aguitarcenter.com/
He takes PayPal or credit card orders and his service is A1..
I could lend you a steel like the one on E-Bay , to keep you going until Chuck's arrives !!
Less than 20 quid and you'll have a steel bar that is just the "Dog's Bxxxcks"[This message was edited by basilh on 09 November 2005 at 04:23 AM.] |
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basilh
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Posted 9 Nov 2005 4:20 am
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Fred... Do you know about "Aloha Dream" ?
Magazine Samples
[This message was edited by basilh on 09 November 2005 at 04:21 AM.] |
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basilh
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Fred Kinbom
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Berlin, Germany, via Stockholm, Sweden.
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Posted 9 Nov 2005 5:39 am
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| Thanks Basil for all the info! |
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Stephan Miller
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Posted 9 Nov 2005 12:51 pm
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Hi Fred-- that eBay bar, at 3 1/4" x 5/8", is way too long for a 6-string, and also too skinny IMO. Basil's recommendation of the Brattain bars is right on. See how you like the Black Phoenix, either 3/4" x 2 3/4", or if you like a tapered bar, that same length tapered to 5/8 at the tip. (Brattain doesn't appear to offer a 2 7/8" long bar, though Dunlop, John Pearse and others do).
Also, one word of warning about the coated Brattain bars (Black Phoenix and Red Rajah)-- the coating, which makes the bar super-easy to grip, will wear off over time; replacing the bar costs $9.90 (shipping included) in the U.S. --Steve[This message was edited by Stephan Miller on 09 November 2005 at 01:16 PM.] |
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Fred Kinbom
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Posted 10 Nov 2005 3:29 am
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Thanks Basil and Steve!
Steve, how long would a black phoenix bar generally last, do you think? (Moderate use, and I would use other bars as well). I guess that's very hard to say, but is it a matter of yearly re-coating, or does it last for really long?
Thanks!
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Stephan Miller
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Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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Posted 10 Nov 2005 11:18 am
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Fred-- Chuck Brattain says "be sure and do not press hard on the bar...the weight of the bar should be about right"
and also "we do not recommend stainless steel strings, they are rough and hard on any bar".
I have a heavy touch (which I'm trying to change) and use the Black Phoenix almost all the time, so I wear a big section of that coating off every few months. But if you follow Chuck's advice, use nickel strings and a light touch, and as you say keep the Phoenix "in rotation" with other bars, I would think at least a year and probably more would go by before you'd want to ship it back.
If you get seriously hooked on using this bar, you can also prolong the life of the coating by making sure your wound strings are semi-flats or flatwounds. --Steve |
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