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Leroy Riggs
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Posted 27 Aug 2007 8:07 am |
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Under msconfig/STARTUP, I am trying to prevent my wife's Yahoo Messenger's GUI from coming up under my login. I have tried under the STARTUP tab under both my login and my wife's login.
To no avail.
When I close the msconfig form and re-open it, it 'unchecks' that I had made are back. I was acting as Admin at the time I tried this.
Any ideas on how to permanently turn off the checks?
I am on XP.
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Wiz Feinberg
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Posted 27 Aug 2007 8:14 am
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Leroy;
Try editing the Registry under your own HKCU branch. See if Yahoo is loading from there. The path would be as follows:
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run\
If Yahoo Messenger is listed in the right pane delete the key, log off and log back on. Alternately, open Yahoo Messenger and see if there is a user option to not have it start when Windows starts. Deselect that option, which may affect all users.
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Leroy Riggs
From:
Looney Tunes, R.I.P.
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Posted 27 Aug 2007 8:25 am
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Wiz, if I need to edit the registry, I probably need to dig out my XP manual (all 450 pages of it) and study up on it. I understand one can hose their registry by editing it incorrectly.
Thanks and I'll get back to you when I get confident enough to try it.
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Wiz Feinberg
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Posted 27 Aug 2007 8:54 am
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| Leroy Riggs wrote: |
Wiz, if I need to edit the registry, I probably need to dig out my XP manual (all 450 pages of it) and study up on it. I understand one can hose their registry by editing it incorrectly.
Thanks and I'll get back to you when I get confident enough to try it. |
Here is what you can do Leroy. Click to the Start button, then on the RUN link. A box will open with a text input field. Type in, or copy and paste this word: REGEDIT and press ENTER. The Registry Editor will open. Click on the + sign next to "HKEY_Current_User." Then drill down through the branches, clicking on the + signs, to arrive at \Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run. When you get there right-click on the "Run" folder icon on the left side and select "Export." When the Save box opens it should have the option "Selected branch" ticked. Save that key to "My Documents," or your desktop, with the filename: "HKCU_Run". Then look in the right side pane for an AB value that refers to Yahoo Messenger, or an abbreviation thereof. Double click on that AB value and see if it has the path to the Yahoo Messenger listed. If so, right click on that "AB" icon and select "Delete." Close the Registry Editor and log off and back on. The messenger should be gone from your identity only.
Note that some programs are designed to reinstate the Run command for all users if they discover that it has been removed. That's why I suggested going into the program's preferences and deselecting the option for it to start when Windows starts. That totally eliminates the need to edit the Registry.
In case you delete the wrong value and something else stops loading, just find the file you saved, which should be named HKCU_Run.reg and double click on it, then give the "OK" to Merge it back into the Registry. Everything will be as it was before you edited that key. You can also save the entire Registry, by exporting it via the Menubar item "File" > Export, changing the radio selection to "All."
Note that there is no built-in undo for Registry Edits, aside from saving a branch, or key, or sub-key first. That's why you should backup your Registry before making any serious edits, especially if you are doing this for the first time.
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Dave Potter
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Texas
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Posted 27 Aug 2007 9:08 am
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If you have the free anti-malware program Spybot Search & Destroy, there are some system tools usable in "Advanced" mode, one of which is called "System Startup". It shows everything that runs on startup, the location it runs from, the source file path, additional descriptive information about the item, and a checkbox to disable the item if desired.
The main advantage in such a utility is that it saves you the time spent searching everywhere a startup item could conceivably be running from - the registry's only one of several possibilities. |
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Dave Potter
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Posted 27 Aug 2007 9:15 am
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| Wiz Feinberg wrote: |
Note that there is no built-in undo for Registry Edits, aside from saving a branch, or key, or sub-key first. That's why you should backup your Registry before making any serious edits, especially if you are doing this for the first time. |
All true enough, Wiz. But have you ever, in your early adventures in registry editing, changed/deleted enough stuff that it broke the system, and now it won't even boot? |
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Wiz Feinberg
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Posted 27 Aug 2007 12:52 pm
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Dave;
I accidentally edited you last post, when I intended to quote it. I am sorry.
What I meant to do was respond that I have never rendered a computer unbootable because of Registry edits. Here is what I wrote (in your Post by accident):
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I remember my first foray into editing the Windows Registry. The year was 1995 and I had just bought a used computer, for $1400, that was just upgraded from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95. It had 16 MB of 32 contacts RAM (4 x 4 MB), an AMD DX100 CPU and a 527 MB hard drive. As soon as I learned how to work my way around Windows 95 (I was used to MS-DOS) I bought a second hand drawing tablet from somebody, but it had no drivers. I desperately wanted to get the tablet working so I finally looked up the company and called them on the phone (no Internet yet). A kind technician talked me through editing the Registry and got that tablet working. Later I had to phone Microsoft for some help and the same routine happened. I was talked through editing the Registry and it worked. That's where I learned how to save the entire Registry, or just the branch I was working on.
I know this is going to be hard to believe, but in all the time since then I have edited Windows Registries hundreds of times, on my and customers' computers, and not once has it caused a failure to start. I wouldn't call it luck, rather extreme caution on my part.
I also remember how in my Windows 9x days, I used to have a batch file that I ran from an MS-DOS bootup that would export the entire Registry, then import it back, reducing the filesize and speeding up Windows' boot time. I used to try all kinds of Registry hacks and tweaks in my younger days! No fear! |
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Leroy Riggs
From:
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Posted 27 Aug 2007 1:25 pm Oh well
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Too bad-so sad, it doesn't work. The process keeps returning and I have tried and tried to change the programs built in preferences w/o success.
My wife has even tried deleting the programs and then reloading thm. The thing still lays in wait until I login and, voilà, there is is.
I may just have to accept it. 
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Wiz Feinberg
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Posted 27 Aug 2007 2:05 pm Re: Oh well
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| Leroy Riggs wrote: |
Too bad-so sad, it doesn't work. The process keeps returning and I have tried and tried to change the programs built in preferences w/o success.
My wife has even tried deleting the programs and then reloading thm. The thing still lays in wait until I login and, voilà, there is is.
I may just have to accept it. :( |
That is one of the reasons that I use Trillian as my IM client. It runs multiple IM formats under one interface, including, but not limited to AOL, Yahoo, MSN and ICQ. Trillian can be set to load or not load when Windows starts, from individual identities. I choose to start it manually, after I have read my first batch of email and reported all spam.
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Leroy Riggs
From:
Looney Tunes, R.I.P.
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Posted 27 Aug 2007 2:56 pm
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I'll look at Trillian.
BTW, thanks for your time.
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Dave Potter
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Posted 27 Aug 2007 4:00 pm
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| Wiz Feinberg wrote: |
Dave;
I accidentally edited you last post, when I intended to quote it. I am sorry.
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No problemo, Wiz...a day in the life....and, tomorrow's another day! |
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