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Richard Tipple


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 13 Aug 2007 8:04 pm    
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Ive had the same bar for about 25 years now( George-Ls) Never used any other bar in all those years.
Just wondering what bar others are using these days & why you like the bar you are using.
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James Morehead


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Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
Post  Posted 13 Aug 2007 8:25 pm    
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I'd like to be the first to say BJS bars. I love the way they feel, and the way they sustain. 15/16" John Hughey model for me. YMMV
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Jim Bob Sedgwick

 

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Clinton, Missouri USA
Post  Posted 13 Aug 2007 8:42 pm    
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Richard, if you try a BJS, you'll never look back. They are as smooth as glass, and you get rid of the wound string noise. (not to say George L bars are no good, they are very good)
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Jonathan Cullifer

 

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Gallatin, TN
Post  Posted 13 Aug 2007 9:11 pm    
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I've used a George L's bar almost as long as I've been playing. I've tried just about every other type of bar imaginable (powder coat, zirconia, etc) at one point or another. I didn't think there was anything better.

I've been playing a BJS bar for a month and the feel on the strings is night and day. It also took some of the edge off my tone. I couldn't be happier.
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Paul Warnik

 

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Illinois,USA
Post  Posted 13 Aug 2007 10:15 pm    
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I have stated here before-If you want to hear the tonal superiority of the BJS bar compare it to any other on an acoustic/resophonic steel-If you can deal with a round bar for Dobro playing you can throw away a Stevens Steel-As soon as Bill Stroud comes out with his "Dobro Bar" (which is according to BJS website "On the drawing board") I will surely be getting one-PW
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Bill Stroud

 

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Dresden, Tennessee, USA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2007 11:28 am     Tone to the bone
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Thanks guys for your comments, you know I feel the same way ---->>>>>><<<<<<Bar>>>>
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Brett Day


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Pickens, SC
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2007 11:55 am    
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I'm using a Sacred Steel grooved bar because round bars slip around in my left hand. I got the bar at the ISGC in 2003. It's definitely my standard bar. The first bar I used was a Dunlop bar and it slid around in my left hand too much and sometimes it wouldn't stay in my left hand. The grooved bar I use is just amazing! I can't switch bars now cause the Sacred Steel is the best bar I've got.


Brett
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Jack Stoner


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Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2007 2:48 pm    
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I've been using a BJS bar for about 20 years. I've got other bars but they don't compare to the BJS. I've even dropped the BJS bar on a concrete floor and it didn't nick, ding or anything - no mark.
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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2007 3:04 pm    
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I rarely use the same bar for more than 2 songs in a row. Different bars have different tones, and different sizes and shapes will affect your playing style.
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Greg Cutshaw


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Corry, PA, USA
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2007 3:24 pm    
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I used the same hollowed out Dunlop chromed bar for about 25 years now. To me the hollow bars produce a warmer, more mellow tone but perhaps a tad less sustain. Their lighter weight will also affect your playing if you've previously only used a solid, heavier bar.

Greg
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KENNY KRUPNICK

 

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Columbus, Ohio
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2007 5:35 pm    
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Playing a double neck-10,and using a BJS 15/16" 12 string bar. Very Happy
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Brad Malone

 

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Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2007 6:23 pm     BJS great bars
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I cast another vote for the BJS bars both the 15/16 and 7/8 are great.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2007 7:27 pm    
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IMHO, "tone" doesn't come from the bar. Rolling Eyes


Pick a bar for it's weight and feel. As far as tone goes, I don't think there's any significant tonal differences in bars, as long as the weight, size, and material are similar.
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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2007 8:13 pm    
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Donny Hinson wrote:
IMHO, "tone" doesn't come from the bar. Rolling Eyes


Pick a bar for it's weight and feel. As far as tone goes, I don't think there's any significant tonal differences in bars, as long as the weight, size, and material are similar.

Duh! That's why I have a variety of weights, sizes and materials in my tone bar arsenal. Razz
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Don Sulesky


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Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
Post  Posted 18 Aug 2007 3:32 am    
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I like my BJS bar but recently I have found myself using my hollowed out 7/8" Bullet Bar more and more.
I like the feel and tone of it much better and the weight has a lot to do with the feel also.
Don
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 18 Aug 2007 4:49 am    
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b0b wrote:
Duh! That's why I have a variety of weights, sizes and materials in my tone bar arsenal. Razz


Exactly, Bobby! What I was trying to get across was that significant changes will give different sounds/tones. I have a variety of different bars myself, and I must admit that my stainless bars feel different than my chrome bars, and my stainless bars make a little more string noise than my chrome ones, but there's no appreciable tone difference. Significant differences - a 1/2" bar sounds different than a 1" bar, and a brass bar sounds different than a bakelite bar.

However, the sound/tone/sustain differences between, say, a 7/8" bar and a 15/16" bar of the same type are zippo.
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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 18 Aug 2007 6:41 am    
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I would classify "a little more string noise" as a tone difference.
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 18 Aug 2007 6:50 am    
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I like a bar with enough mass to prevent rattles without a lot of down pressure. The more strings you are trying to cover, the more mass your bar should have.
On pedal steel, I really prefer a 15/16" bar.
When I play an 8 string, non-pedal steel, I downsize to a 3/4" bar.
And I downsize further when playing a 6 string lap guitar. When playing a lap guitar, I really prefer a tapered bar.
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Brad Malone

 

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Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 18 Aug 2007 8:10 am     Bars
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Hey Guys, I do think there is a sound difference between the 15/16 and the 7/8 size bars...for slower songs I like to use the 15/16 but for faster songs the 7/8 size BJS bar but for me the 7/8 is the way to go and the 15/16 is just added spice....BJS is my choice...all the way.
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Bob Knight


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Bowling Green KY
Post  Posted 18 Aug 2007 9:18 am     BJS
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BJS for 20+ years.
You won't find a better bar, or a better man than Bill Stroud! Smile

Bob
15/16 & 7/8 with birthstone
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A. J. Schobert

 

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Cincinnati, Ohio,
Post  Posted 18 Aug 2007 10:05 am    
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If you can afford to get a variety of bars I would do that.

I use an old Ernie Ball bar (10 string) it is good but the chrome has worn off it.

I bought a Red Rajah bar early this year I love it, but the coating is really coming off, I will probably just get another one.

Also I don't know if they still make these, but I used an old emmons bar and I would have to say I liked that bar so far.
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Bobbe Seymour

 

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Hendersonville TN USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 18 Aug 2007 10:10 am    
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I always use a bar glass, they are free and have a transparent tone you see through.
(Sometimes I even use them empty.)

Bill Stroud? Would you trust a guy who's initials are "B.S."?
Bobbe Seymour
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Brad Malone

 

From:
Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 18 Aug 2007 11:10 am     Good Bars
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I would also add that if you have enough money; buy a "good bar" and you will always have a place to play. I read sometime ago that one of Hank Thompson's Steel players did that.
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Bill Stroud

 

From:
Dresden, Tennessee, USA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 18 Aug 2007 11:51 am     Bar & Tone
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Ha Ha a Good one Bobbe, that's a good line..
B = Bobbe or Bill
S = Seymour or Stroud
I like that, keep up the good work >>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<

I'm liking my bars more than ever, for I know who I can Trust...
Bill S.
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Mike Wheeler


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Delaware, Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 18 Aug 2007 4:31 pm    
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All right, you guys. We better keep an eye on these guys making those BS comments. Razz Laughing
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