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Michael Johnstone


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Post  Posted 18 Jun 2007 8:46 am    
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My band "Sacred Cowboys" www.sacredcowboys.com will be appearing at the Key Club in Hollywood this coming Tuesday June 19 on the show as "special guests" with Big & Rich,Gretchen Wilson and who knows who else from the musical madhouse out of Nashville known as the "Musik Mafia". If any L.A. forumites show up please drop by the swag booth or the bus out back and say hi.
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Michael Douchette


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Gallatin, TN (deceased)
Post  Posted 18 Jun 2007 9:29 pm     Re: Big & Rich/Musik Mafia
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Michael Johnstone wrote:
musical madhouse out of Nashville known as the "Musik Mafia".


Like the Mafia had nuttin' to do with the music business before dees yahoos come along... Laughing

You're right about madhouse, though... I think it's hilarious that B&R's trucks have a huge Prilosec endorsement painted on the side... ya need a good dose of that to get through listenin' to that... uh... "stuff."
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Dustin Rigsby


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Post  Posted 19 Jun 2007 4:22 am    
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I hate to admit this Mike...I like some of that "stuff"....except for cowboy troy....he is purely a novelty act. Very Happy
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Michael Douchette


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Post  Posted 19 Jun 2007 4:29 am    
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Aw, Dustin, it's alright; the first step to healing is admitting we have a problem... Laughing

Seriously, some of it is just fine. I agree with you on the CT thing, though; such a shame. He really is an extremely intelligent, nice man. You'd think he'd know better...
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Dick Wood


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Post  Posted 19 Jun 2007 5:58 am    
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I do get a big laugh every time I hear Why does everyone always want to kick my A$$.
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Michael Johnstone


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Post  Posted 19 Jun 2007 9:05 am    
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Hell I don't mind that stuff. At this point I need some of that kind of money they're makin. Matter of fact I've been lookin to sell out for the last few years........
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Earnest Bovine


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Post  Posted 19 Jun 2007 10:29 am    
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Big & Rich were on the Tonight Show last night. I heard a little steel guitar but didn't see any dwarfs or midgets.
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Mark Eaton


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Post  Posted 19 Jun 2007 10:56 am    
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I'll tell you what, several years ago, I wouldn't have given you a nickel for a Big & Rich CD. Between the dwarf, and Cowboy Troy, and all the other circus act stuff.

I guess it was the 2005 edition of some awards show, maybe the CMA's, my wife and I were watching.

Bear in mind that I never listen to mainstream "today's hot country" radio stations, so a lot of the songs that many of the folks around here have made fun of, thankfully, I've never even heard.

But we're watching this show, and Kris Kristofferson comes out and gives the spoken word introduction for the Big & Rich song, "Eighth of November," and I had never heard the song or even heard of it.

So Big & Rich performed the song, and by the end of the thing, my wife and I are both sitting there with tears streaming down our cheeks.

It flat blew me away, and I had no idea that these guys were capable of that kind of depth.

I'm still not going to go see them in concert, but ever since that evening, they're OK with me.

I'm sure the majority of you have seen it, but if you haven't - click on the link below and it will take you to the original video which is on You Tube.

http://tinyurl.com/2qcekx
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Chris LeDrew


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Post  Posted 19 Jun 2007 12:17 pm    
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I'd rather Big and Rich than a lot of that other new country junk. I think they have energy and a stage presence that's lacking in some of the spaced-out, prescription drugged-out, botoxed solo singers we're seeing on these award shows. Every time I've seen them, they've been performing a catchy number.
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erik

 

Post  Posted 19 Jun 2007 12:20 pm    
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didn't see it.
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Theresa Galbraith

 

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Post  Posted 19 Jun 2007 1:58 pm    
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They do use steel and I love the new single!Smile
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Kevin Hatton

 

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Buffalo, N.Y.
Post  Posted 20 Jun 2007 12:42 pm    
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Big and Rich are flat out whats wrong with CMT country. They are NOT country. They are a rock band masquerading as country.

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Mat Rhodes

 

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Lexington, KY, USA
Post  Posted 20 Jun 2007 2:24 pm    
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I was wondering how many posts it would take before we'd start to see the knees jerking...

"Big nad Rich" - good one!
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Theresa Galbraith

 

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Post  Posted 20 Jun 2007 2:54 pm    
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Kevin,
Hey, they are selling records no matter if you like it or not.
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Kevin Hatton

 

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Post  Posted 20 Jun 2007 3:11 pm    
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I prefer to support real country music like Dale Watson, Bobby Flores, and Heather Myles. They get my CD $.
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Theresa Galbraith

 

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Post  Posted 20 Jun 2007 3:31 pm    
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Yes, regardless they sell!
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Michael Johnstone


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Post  Posted 20 Jun 2007 3:38 pm    
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Well the gig went pretty smooth last night in spite of one of our guitarists being out of town. The rest of us picked up the slack and delivered a good show. Dave Ristrim was playing steel and guitar for the Musik Mafia and he sounded pretty fine on his Carter 12 string. The Musik Mafia is not really a rock band posing as a country band - it's more of an old fashioned review where there's a backing band and a bunch of different artists are featured for a few tunes each. John and Kenny actually hate mainstream Nashville CMT stuff and the marketing mindset that goes with it as much as a lot of folks on this forum. It's just that they do like a lot of completely different kinds of music and their show is just a statement that contrary to the current trend of narrow concert,radio and record formats - on the same show you can have country,hard rock,funk,rap,gospel,blues,R&B,spoken word and audiences will accept it. They even have a very talented artist named Rachel Kice on one side of the stage creating a large abstract painting in real time during the course of the evening.I didn't absolutely love everything I heard but there was a lot of talent on that stage.The show was well paced,well performed,very entertaining and the crowd loved it. It reminded me of the old reviews I saw in the 60s like Ike & Tina,James Brown,Johnny Otis and Mad Dogs & Englishmen. For those who think there's only 2 kinds of music - "country" and "western" I'd say go see my buddy Dale Watson.
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Theresa Galbraith

 

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Post  Posted 20 Jun 2007 4:04 pm    
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Big & Rich are hot right now!

I've only heard of Dale Watson from the forum.
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Mark Eaton


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Post  Posted 20 Jun 2007 4:15 pm    
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Theresa Galbraith wrote:
Big & Rich are hot right now!

I've only heard of Dale Watson from the forum.


Is that a bad thing?
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erik

 

Post  Posted 20 Jun 2007 6:08 pm    
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off topic
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 20 Jun 2007 8:52 pm    
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Big and Rich are flat out whats wrong with CMT country. They are NOT country. They are a rock band masquerading as country.


I Agree. AND they are Not even a good rock band.

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...they are selling records no matter if you like it or not.


So is Britney Spears. So is Ashlee Simpson, the lip sync queen. They sell a lot of records too... does that mean they are Good musicians making Quality music? OR does that mean they are just successful at spoonfeeding crap to the public?

Record Sales do Not indicate Quality. They indicate popularity.
Often there is a reverse correlation: the bigger the record sales, the more trite, shallow, and unoriginal the music is.

Although I have never seen B&R, and I do not listen to Top-40 Country, I did hear this band (or duo, or whatever they are) one time. Last year while riding to a gig with a fellow musician I was tortured for an hour... he played a B&R CD all the way to the gig, and I heard all I need to hear. They sound like an overproduced '80s hair band. In 10 years this stuff will be long forgotten, along with Ashlee Simpson.
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Marlin Smoot


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Post  Posted 20 Jun 2007 9:43 pm    
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The new Big & Rich song "Lost In The Moment" is pretty good, would make a great wedding song. I also gave them more respect after: "Eighth of November"
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Barry Blackwood


Post  Posted 21 Jun 2007 6:43 am    
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"In 10 years this stuff will be long forgotten, along with Ashlee Simpson."

Doug, I doubt it will take that long ......
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Chris LeDrew


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Post  Posted 21 Jun 2007 7:08 am    
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*Edited for the usual reasons of being insulted for having an unpopular opinion.

(See Kevin Hatton's brilliant post on page 2 that insults every forum member who lives outside of the United States, especially our friends across the pond that live in small European towns.)
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Mat Rhodes

 

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Post  Posted 21 Jun 2007 12:30 pm    
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I have a better topic for you to start, Chris. How about "The Non-Musician Masses: Are They Happier And Better Off Than Musicians?"
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