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Walter Jones
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Athens, Ohio USA
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Posted 15 Jul 2007 10:03 am |
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| What would be the years of manufacture for a Sho-Bud Pro III? Narrow pedlas, Triple raise/Double lower. straight knees, looks like pot metal castings. |
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Larry Robbins
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Fort Edward, New York
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Micky Byrne
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United Kingdom (deceased)
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Posted 15 Jul 2007 11:04 am Re: Sho-Bud
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Hi Walter, I guess the post from Larry will have all the info you need 
Micky Byrne United Kingdom Sho-Bud and Carter universals |
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Walter Jones
From:
Athens, Ohio USA
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Posted 15 Jul 2007 12:12 pm
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Thanks Larry for your reply. I went to that site and read it so here is some more information, got another look at the guitar and just trying to help out on when it was built.
As I said, narrow pedals with 2 holes for the ball joint to be instaled, 3 holes where the down rods go in, its 8 & 4 shows no evidence on any thing else being installed (no empty screw holes) sure looks all original, wood necks with diamond rope inlays on body and necks front and rear, spring clips on the cross rods underneath, hex shaft, nylon adjusters on the changer, square front body, Grover tuners , brass rollers in the nut, flat smooth fretboards. Knees and some other parts in the guitar are cast pieces. Square keyheads, not the Gumby type. Also a Sho-Bud volume pedal, I think its the narrow newer type probably purchased at the same time.
I just got a new digital camera Friday and been online trying to get all the software loaded and figure out how to use it. When I do maybe I can get a picture of it and someone can post it for me if anyone wants to see it.
Its red, beautiful heavy birds eye maple body, I can only find one bar ding that broke the finish. The other ones you have to get the light right to see them, very minor.
Thanks for the help. |
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Mike Sigler
From:
Give Em A Try !
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Posted 15 Jul 2007 12:56 pm
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Walt
Sounds like mid 70's to me, i have one very close to it, and mine is about a 75 model...Love them old guitars.
Mike
Ps. Call me some time greg... Ahhh i mean Walt |
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 15 Jul 2007 3:19 pm
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Sho~Bud switched to the Superpro undercarriage design (the one you are describing) in 1977, so this guitar is no older than '77, and could be as young as early 80's. (Of course, this is all in the link above.)
You mentioned it had wood necks.....Pro III's came with metal necks. Are you sure it's not a Pro II?
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Walter Jones
From:
Athens, Ohio USA
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Posted 15 Jul 2007 3:48 pm
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Well, maybe its a combination of a Pro III and a Super Pro. I has a Pro III decal on the front and all decals are in good shape so maybe its original. Super Pros had wood or aluminum necks as stated in the link provided by Larry. Hex shaped cross rods like on a Super Pro. It states in the link above that after the introduction of the Super Pro then all future Pros were built with the Super Pro undercarriage. This looks like it would have occured sometime around 1977. Who knows, I just know its in great shape. I would guess that some parts were continued to be used until the supply was diminshed.
Not sure of anything Chris  but appreciate all the feedback.
Thanks for all. |
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Larry Robbins
From:
Fort Edward, New York
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Posted 15 Jul 2007 4:44 pm
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Walter, if you can send me a pic I will be glad to post it for you. Then maybe it will be easier to see just what you have.
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Walter Jones
From:
Athens, Ohio USA
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Posted 15 Jul 2007 4:54 pm
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Larry, thanks but I am still fighting this camera download. Probably have to wait for the paperboy to come by and give me some school.  I have been on a search through the for sale section and there is a Pro II Custom that is very much like it except this one says Pro III on the decal. Body and color and the view of the undercarriage sure looks like it to me. The Pro II custom was posted by Leroy Gordon on 26 may 07. This Kodak Z885 is something else, a step up from a Brownie Hawkeye I think the Z is for the zoom noise it is gonna make when I sling it over the hill. |
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Skip Edwards
From:
LA,CA
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Posted 15 Jul 2007 5:24 pm
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What Chris said.
It sounds like a late model shortbody ProII.
I've seen a ProII with a ProIII decal once before. And it wouldn't surprise me at all if they just put on the wrong decal when the gtr was built.
Here's a question... How deep is the offset between the necks? ProII's and III were 3/4" and SuperPro's were 1/4". |
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Walter Jones
From:
Athens, Ohio USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2007 6:05 am
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You guys are fantastic. Skip it has a 3/4 offset so it looks like all the input has it pretty well identified. This reminds me of going to a car show and the judges cover it in detail, scoring plus or minus points. There is a lot of knowledge here to get to this point without even seeing the guitar.
I now have the digital pictures loaded into the computer but as I read the directions I guess I have to enter the address book into the camera so I download the email address into the Kodak share program.
Larry, when I get that far I will send you a picture so you can post it. This has been a real learning curve for me and its not over yet. Thanks to everyone for your guidance and time. |
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B. Greg Jones
From:
Middleport, Ohio USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2007 12:41 pm
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Dad just sent me some pics of the guitar. Sure is a pretty one!!!
Greg
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Skip Edwards
From:
LA,CA
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Posted 16 Jul 2007 1:42 pm
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Looks like a late model ProII. Very, very nice. Interesting about the decal, though...it's not in the usual place, and it doesn't say Custom.
Very cool gtr.. |
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 17 Jul 2007 7:44 am
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Walter, I was working afternoons at Nash's Music in Inglewood, Ca. in 1977. Nash's was a ShoBud dealer and on one of our shipments we'd ordered one double ten, two single tens, and two single twelves. Both the double and single tens came with the narrow pedals and triple raise/double lower changers but oddly enough, both the single twelves had the older double raise/single lower changer and wide pedals with the grate on top. I bought one of the S-12's myself so they must have had some old stock on those models, it didn't matter though, it was a great guitar and I sure wish I had it back.......JH in Va.
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Walter Jones
From:
Athens, Ohio USA
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Posted 17 Jul 2007 2:00 pm
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| This sure has been fun and very informative. I guess the last question I would have is when did production stop. It doesn't really matter as some of you have stated, its just nice to get a little history about Sho-Bud like what Jerry Hayes just wrote. |
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