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Richard Shatz


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Post  Posted 9 Aug 2005 7:10 pm    
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7341443226&ssPageName=STRK:M EWA:IT

Am I missing something or is this something more than a Champ with legs? What makes this worth that much? Don't get me wrong. I hope that vintage steel and everything else of that and earlier and better vintages are worth the high multiple obtained in that auction. It didn't bother me at all when a mid 30s Rick A22 frypan went for over 3K last week and some other great steels are going for well over 1K.
Is the vintage guitar market of the late 80s just beginning to find out about lap steels? I'm just throwing this up for grabs, but I am amazed and also delighted.

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Harry Sheppard

 

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Kalispell, MT USA
Post  Posted 9 Aug 2005 7:35 pm    
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It's called Schill bidding and it's really getting annoying. This clown lists a guitar he thinks is worth a lot of money and gets his buddies to open a new ebay account and bid it up hoping to trick some poor sucker into the bidding war. Notice the high bidder has 0 feedback and is a new user. Only a few people are actually bidding on it and they use the schill to raise the bids. There was a Fender 400 pedal steel on ebay recently that was the same way. They bid it up to well over $1100.00 and the high bidder had 0 feedback and it had 20 or 30 bids. It is very obvious if you just look at the bids. The same Fender 400 showed up again a week after it closed with a Buy-it-Now price of $1100.00 and of course nobody bid on it then either. It was listed a third time and was at a reasonable price but they set a high reserve which was not met. It is against ebay policy to do this but it happens all the time.

Edited to add the link of the Fender 400. This was the third time it was listed. Note the high bidder has 0 feedback and is a new user which indicates they were trying to schill bid again. I will bet it will show up again as will their schill.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Steel-Guitar-8-string-7-pedal -Vintage_W0QQitemZ7341020912QQcategoryZ621QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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George Keoki Lake


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Edmonton, AB., Canada
Post  Posted 9 Aug 2005 8:53 pm    
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He also states it is STRINGMASTER.....I don't think so. It only has the one p/u.
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Curt Langston


Post  Posted 10 Aug 2005 4:04 am    
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Harry, well said! That is exactly the case. It is very annoying, but sometimes it gets the newbie tricked into thinking that they are getting a rare "vintage" steel. It is infuriating to say the least. You pegged it!

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Denny Turner

 

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Oahu, Hawaii USA
Post  Posted 10 Aug 2005 4:07 am    
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It would not surprise me a bit if the 2nd highest bidder got an email from the Seller informing him that the "winner" backed out of the deal and a second chance offer is being made in order of next highest bidders.



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Harry Sheppard

 

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Kalispell, MT USA
Post  Posted 20 Aug 2005 7:49 am    
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Well here is that Fender 400 again and as I predicted their schill is at it again as well. The high bidder is a new member with 0 feedback and unfortunately someone will get ripped off this time because there is no reserve. That is unless the schill outbids everyone but then they will do a "second chance offer" to the highest real bidder getting his highest bid. I have reported this aucion to ebay but I doubt they will do anything to protect the real bidders. To bad...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Steel-Guitar-8-string-7-pedal-Vintage_W0QQitemZ7343590951QQcategoryZ621QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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