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Mike Wheeler
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Posted 6 Jun 2007 12:24 pm |
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What a beautiful guitar!! Almost makes me wish I played a 10 string. 
These are fantastic guitars, friends. And at that price you're getting one that's as good as new, as far as I can see.
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Bobby Boggs
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Posted 6 Jun 2007 12:28 pm As for Trades
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As for trades. I've listed this guitar about 30% less than what a new Millennium will cost you.If you have a like new guitar and can take 30 % less than what they actually sell for.Maybe we can work something out.Some guitars have a really great resale value. Some don't.If you visit here often?You know which do and the brands that don't. Vintage pedal steels is a hold other ball game.But I can trade for old Emmons, Sho~Buds, Franklins and Bigsbys. But that's about it though.
About the set-up.It's the same a Buddy Emmons has listed here on both the E9 and C6th.[b] The exceptions are pedal 4. Which is standard C6th.And the RKL, Which raises 1 a whole step. 2 a 1/2 step. And lowers 6 a full step and is split tuned for the G note. Of course any string can be split tuned on this guitar.
Click this link and scroll down to see the set-up written out.
http://b0b.com/tunings/stars.html#E9be
....THanks..bb
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Joe Butcher
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Dallas,Texas, USA
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Posted 6 Jun 2007 12:30 pm
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WOW. I think the Millenium is like the BMW of steels. Thats quite a good price too. Wish I had the $$ for it.
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Duncan Hodge
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DeLand, FL USA
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Posted 6 Jun 2007 12:58 pm
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, Bobby's equipment is top shelf all the way. I am a more than satisfied former customer of his.
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Jeremy Drawbaugh
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Posted 6 Jun 2007 5:23 pm MSA
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| I HAVE TO AGREE BOBBY IS A GREAT PERSON TO DO BUSINESS WITH. I WISH I HAD THE MONEY TO BUY THIS GUITAR OR I WOULD SCOOP IT UP IN A HEARTBEAT. ALL I HAVE FOR A TRADE WOULD BE A CARTER ABOUT 5 YEARS OLD. HAS THE BCT TECHNOLOGY. ANYWAY WHOEVER GETS THIS GUITAR WILL BE GETTING A GREAT DEAL. |
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David Biggers
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Texas, USA
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 5:36 am
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Bobby you said you had no use for my Carters on trade for your MSA. All of my guitars and equipment are like BRAND NEW.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=110625
Sure would like to have that MSA of yours!
Oh well maybe I can trade them in on a new Jackson or Sho-Pro.
I heard they are almost as nice as the MSA.
Well here go's nothing Bobby!
$1000.00 and my 2 guitars and lets trade. Thats about 30% of thier value.
Thats my final offer and all the credit I have left to spend.
Help me out here!
Thanks.
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Bobby Boggs
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 6:00 am
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David,by saying no use. I have no where to place them.I like a Carter.But they have like a 5 day waiting period for a new one.They build too many. too fast for them to have a high resale value.Thanks for the offer. The last Carter D-10 you bought.I think I can offer you what you paid for it + the balance...bb
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David Biggers
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 6:23 am
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Bobby
That would make the balance what then?
I migh,t provided you could give me enough time, be able to sell my other guitar on ebay.
David
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Bobby Boggs
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Upstate SC.
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 7:04 am
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| David.If you're going to try to trade.Lets do it via E-mail.I just remember it was a pretty D-10 at a fair price..I'll get back to you ASAP. I am covered up.THat's one reason I hate to mention trades...THanks.......bb |
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Steve Stallings
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 7:46 am
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| They build too many. too fast for them to have a high resale value. |
That is a very interesting comment. However, using your own math in the above post, a "Like New" MSA immediately lost 30% of it's value. A brand spanking new Carter D10 is $2895. So a "Like New Carter" is worth roughly $2000... That is not what I see the recent used Carters selling for. In fact, it appears that most of them lose perhaps only 10-15% of their value in the first few years. I did a search of all previous D10 Carter offerings here and believe that in fact, the Carter holds it's value perhaps a little better than the MSA. I honestly think what you meant to say, is that there is not enough profit in the resale of used Carters for psuedo-dealers like yourself. The Carters are nice guitars that are less expensive initially and generally hold their value quite well. I also believe that the MSA guitars are quite nice. I've owned and played both brands. I just feel that your blanket statement concerning the value of used Carters is not fair to Carter guitars or their owners. Nor is it accurate when looking at objective data.
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David Biggers
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Texas, USA
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 8:14 am
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Hi Steve
Acording to some information I have gathered from some other steel guitar builders, that know a heck of a lot more than I do requarding these matters.
The 04 3 year old MSA Sold for about $5300.00 new.
That make's it about a 93% resale value if you can find one for sale. WOW! Darn good.
I am sure there were other things to consider like maybe optional items. Leather covers and so forth.
There was one of these guitars for sale on ebay last month and I stopped my bidding at $3100.00 and then I was told by one of those same steel guitar builders that I was smart in doing so.
Needless to say I did not win it.
I wonder which player won it?
Resale value is a funny thing.
Supply and demand.
Thanks again for the feedback.
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Steve Stallings
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 8:37 am
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| The 04 3 year old MSA Sold for about $5300.00 new. |
but.. but.. but... Bobby says it costs $6900! 
Simply using Bobby's math...
This simply reflects the fact that many new pedal steels sell for far less than their list price for one reason or another. As a general rule, Carter does not discount their guitars period. So the list of $2895 is what the vast majority of folks pay. I still maintain that Carter PSG's hold their value quite well. Carter is the number one selling PSG in the world with many happy Carter owners. I no longer own a Carter but I have a great respect for the Carter folks. Good luck on your trade.
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 8:40 am
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Dang nice steel ya got there Bobby......bump for this one.
Ron |
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Bobby Boggs
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 8:55 am
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The price, I listed is what's on the MSA site.Ask Reece for a discount.Again, let me know how that works out for you.
The price is 4900 + freight.That's what it's going to take.You can cry, call ya moma. Don't matter. It changes nothing. |
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Doc Rickles
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 9:05 am MSA Millenniun
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Guys,
The price of the Millinnium w 8/7 is listed as 6950.
My 8/6 is 6750. The Legend is 5300.w/8/5. This is a
Millennium that Bobby has for sale. They are in my opinion the Rolls Royce of Steel Guitars.
Doc
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David Biggers
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Texas, USA
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 9:12 am
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No doubt about that. Thats why I want one !!!!!!
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Steve Stallings
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Houston/Cypress, Texas
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David Biggers
From:
Texas, USA
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 9:30 am
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Again funny thing about resale value.
Bobby's got it and others want it.
Therefore whatever Bobby sells it for is what its worth.
There are so few of these made and avaliable for sell that the demand is very high.
This will drive up the resale value.
There is nothing wrong with making a profit.
Shoot I do it every day.
Some of you out there may not understand Bobby's personality.
I have never personality met the man but I can tell you he is all business. Straight to the point and speaks his mind at the moment he thinks of it.
Now, I am not like that but some people are.
There is nothing wrong with that!
I hope to meet him some day.
I would like to meet all of you guys some day.
Bobby good luck selling that beautiful steel of yours. I am not quite ready to spend that much money unless I can trade in both steels.
Again thanks again and good luck!
Maybe I will be able to sell both of mine at the same time and then get yours.
Who am I kidding it won't be here next week!
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David Biggers
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Texas, USA
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 9:59 am
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Oh forgot to say
GO TIGERS!
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CrowBear Schmitt
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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 10:27 am
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i helped a steeler from Belgium get a millenium that was on sale here on the forum :
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=106712&highlight=
these steels don't come around often & the waiting time is even longer than before
Your MSA Millenium is gonna sell like a hotcake Bobby & make 1 happy camper
i don't find your selling price to be unreasonable
watch it go guys...
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Bobby Boggs
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 11:51 am
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THank you Crow Bear and Doc Rickles. As for Dr.Stallings. This has nothing to do with this guitar. I tryed to address the questions.But most of my replies are now missing.Anyone that wants to hear the beef between me an Dr.Stallings. Just e-mail me.If I write it here.It will be deleted.
Mr. Anderson wrote a piece somtime back explaining why the cost of the Millenniums has gone thru the roof.Maybe some of you with nothing better to do will do a search.Please feel free to post it hear.
Mr. Biggers or anyone.If you can buy a new Millennim 8 and 7 for $5300. I'll give you 1000 profit. I want another black one.But at that price. any color will do.
Also, I thought your D-10 2 tone was an 06.Not a 96.Sure looks pretty. I wish you the very best with the both of them.
One tip from an old horse trader. When you're really serious about trading.Do it e-mail.Not on a public Forum. |
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Steve Stallings
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Houston/Cypress, Texas
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 12:48 pm
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As for Dr.Stallings. This has nothing to do with this guitar. I tryed to address the questions.But most of my replies are now missing.Anyone that wants to hear the beef between me an Dr.Stallings. Just e-mail me.If I write it here.It will be deleted.
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Huh???? This wasn't personal Bobby.
This has nothing to do with any "beef" Bobby. It is unethical to tear down another brand of guitar simply to promote your current sale. The fact that you are making a $900 profit on this sale, or even the recent Shobud you sold for an $800 profit have no bearing on this. Hey.. I didn't say a word about your amazing $1,000 student Zum... even when you implied that the new ones are somehow inferior simply to make a profit.
No, no beef Bobby... Your dealings here speak volumes.
I believe in the free market economy. People have a right to make a profit. What bothers me is your use of the trust and bond of this forum to turn a quick buck. You might think that you are pulling the wool over folks eyes... and yes, you do have some here who don't see anything wrong with the way you operate.
But.. I guarantee you, there are many folks here plenty smart enough to figure you out.
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Bobby Boggs
From:
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 1:18 pm
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Steve, I bought both guitars way under the money. I have to eat to.You're a doctor and you want to tell me I make too much money?I sell maybe a 8 or 10 a year. I'd like to see you try to live on what I make.
All this info you posted. done on E bay. Not the Forum. None of your business.
Now you posted my income. Post yours.For what it's worth. I put 50 hrs in the Bud to get it like I want it.How much can you make in 50 hrs??[/b]
Your posting of personal information is way out of line,Should cost you your account.[Forum Members. I'm I wrong here?? [/b]
If you want to help?How about free health or cheap health care to Forum members.I've been disabled since age 34. I draw nothing.0 from the government.No one will hire me. So I can make money on my on.Or I can starve.
And the last thing I need on a buy and sell add is some over paid Doctor telling me I make too much money.We have some Doctors here than are fine people.You sir are a low life.
For the record.I like Carters. I buy and sell them also.Do they have a great resale value compared to an Emmons, Zum, Franklin etc? No
This whole thing is unreal. I've seen it. But I still don't beleive it.The Forum is becoming like Jerry Springer.
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 1:34 pm
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| I tryed to address the questions.But most of my replies are now missing. Anyone that wants to hear the beef between me an Dr.Stallings. Just e-mail me.If I write it here.It will be deleted. |
Just for the record, I'm the moderator and I have not, as of right now (June 7, 2:30 PM), deleted any replies in this topic. I don't know deleted replies you're talking about. 
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Steve Stallings
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 1:37 pm
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Steve, I bought both guitars way under the money. I have to eat to.You're a doctor and you want to tell me I make too much money?I sell maybe a 8 or 10 a year. I'd like to see you try to live on what I make.
All this info you posted. done on E bay. Not the Forum. None of your business.
Now you posted my income. Post yours.For what it's worth. I put 50 hrs in the Bud to get it like I want it.How much can you make in 50 hrs??[/b]
Your posting of personal information is way out of line,Should cost you your account.+ it's personal info.
If you want to help.How about free health or cheap health care to Forum members.I've been disabled since age 34. I draw nothing.0 from the government.No one will hire me. So I can make money.Or I can starve.
And the last thing I need on a buy and sell add is some over paid Doctor telling me I make too much money.We have some Doctors here than are fine people.You sir are a low life.
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Uhh... A bit over the top. I didn't post any personal information Bobby. Ebay sales are public as is anything on the forum. I don't care how much money you make. That is silly. I just want you to stop preying on the uninformed folks here who believe you.
You don't know me... I'm not a rich doctor. I practice medicine in a Christian Rural Health Clinic for the indigent and disadvantaged. I make about one half of what I could make if I moved to a regular clinic.
I'm truly sorry that you are disabled. However, that doesn't excuse your methods here. Painting me as some rich doctor "picking on poor little you", doesn't alter your actions. Bobby, you must have some insight into all of this? I didn't participate in the Zum thread... was that some other rich doctors picking on you?
Think this through. Do you not realize that other folks can see this behavior too?
Best wishes...
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