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Topic: Scheerhorn Reso Capo |
Larry Robbins
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Fort Edward, New York
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Posted 29 May 2007 3:54 pm |
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Just got one of the new style Scheerhorn
Reso guitar capos. So far I like it.:
http://elderly.com/accessories/items/SRGC1.htm
Kind of like the Flux capo but with more "mass of the brass".....so far I like it better than when I tried the Flux. Doesn't seem to rob nearly as much tone as some capos seem to. A while ago I switched from the Flux to a Beard. I liked the tone better but I did not like where the thumb screw was located on the Beard. I like to anchore my pinkey on the
nut (or capo) when playing in the first position and the Beard has that dang thumb screw right on top and in the middle of it!
http://elderly.com/accessories/items/BDC1.htm
Have not gigged with it yet but I will take it to my reg Wednesday nighter tommorow...
let you all know what I think...anyone else try one yet??
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Mark Eaton
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Posted 29 May 2007 4:01 pm
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My two favorite reso capos are the newer Scheerhorn and the Bradley.
More mass = less tone "death"
It is my understanding that Jerry Douglas has been trialing a newly redesigned Beard capo so I'm curious about that one.
The only negative I have heard about the newer Scheerhorn is that it doesn't go on and off as quickly as the older Scheerhorn/Flux capo, a little more coumbersome to operate.
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Larry Robbins
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Fort Edward, New York
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Posted 29 May 2007 4:17 pm
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I agree, Mark.
The newer version seems to have a larger ruber sleave than the original. Makes it snugger on the fingerboard but as you say " more cumbersome" to put on and take off. I dont use a capo too much so I am hopeing this one will work out for my style of playing. I too am very interested in the new Beard that JD is sporting.Let me know if you find one for sale before I do...and Ill do the same.. 
Love them Dobro's
( sue me Gibson  )
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Chris Walke
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St Charles, IL
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Posted 30 May 2007 6:23 am
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| Do you guys use the Scheerhorn with the brass on the bottom or the top? I started with the capo "floating", brass on top, but recently began turning it over. Better intonation; easier installation. |
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Michael Haselman
From:
St. Paul
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Posted 30 May 2007 9:18 am
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Thanks for asking that question, Chris. I'm a reso newbie and mine came with a Flux capo and I still haven't got a definitive answer to that question. I'd just like to know which way it was designed to go: brass up or down.
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Terry Sneed
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Posted 30 May 2007 9:48 am capo
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Got one just like it. I hadn't used it that much, mainly just when playing in A. I've noticed that when I'm playing a fast song that involves hammer-ons and pull-offs that the capo hits my fretboard.
Do ya'll experience that, or do I just need to lighten up on my hammer-on and pull-off? 
Whoops, I just now seen the question in above post. Maybe I just need to turn the thing over. 
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Mark Eaton
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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 30 May 2007 9:53 am
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They are not really designed to go either way...if you go over to the reso specialty forums, like the Jerry Douglas board and Reso-Nation, you'll find that this is one of the more popular questions in regards to Scheerhorn and Scheerhorn/Flux capos.
Unlike the Shubb dobro capo, or any acoustic flat top capo, there is nothing clamping the thing to the neck, so the principle is sort of like a temporary "floating" nut placed at the desired fret marker.
The major disadvantage of putting the brass side down is that if the nut height is slightly lower than normal, or if you are playing "hard" and depressing the string more than usual from bar pressure from say, hammer ons, then the brass will bang onto the fretboard and possibly cause some dings.
The deal on any of these things, when playing out, is to be quick - we all know that sometimes the transition to the next song can happen like right now.
Chris apparently feels that he can "sight" the thing better with the rubber side up - in theory, the sound should not change in either mounting position.
I have seen photos, and have watched many top dobro players at shows that use these two capos, and it seems some go with the brass side up, and others go with the brass side down - I don't think I have ever noticed a real trend one way or the other, but I wouldn't want to take any chances on dinging the fretboard on an expensive reso, so it would be rubber side down for me.
All that said, I believe Tim Scheerhorn himself recommends that his capo be placed with the rubber side down.
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Terry Sneed
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Arkansas,
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Posted 30 May 2007 9:56 am Larry
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Hey Larry, are you the nice man that gave me the Cindy cashdollar video, "learning bluegrass dobro"?
Terry |
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Terry Sneed
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Posted 30 May 2007 10:00 am rubber side down
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Thanks Mark, I guess that's been my problem all along. Looks like I could have figured that one out.
Terry |
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Larry Robbins
From:
Fort Edward, New York
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Posted 30 May 2007 11:17 am
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This is from the Elderly Website where I got the capo:
SCHEERHORN RESO-GUITAR CAPO
This newly designed squareneck resonator guitar capo from Tim Scheerhorn features a very heavy brass top bar with a padded pivot arm. Simple flip-action catch releases the capo. Padded arm is positioned between the strings and fingerboard, virtually eliminating any string bounce, and the hinge is positioned on the bass side.
I have been useing brass side up like it says and I like it so far 
Terry,
Yes I'm the fellow that sent you the vid!
How you doing on the reso?
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Peter Jacobs
From:
Northern Virginia
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Posted 30 May 2007 12:35 pm
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I've been using it brass side down -- it goes on easier for me. It's easier to get the bar into the lever when the brass side is down, especially with picks on.
I also used the Leno upside down -- again, I found it easier to get on, but then I had the lever sticking up right next to my left hand, with I had to be careful about (I've bumped the thing open more than once).
As far as tone is concerned, I don't hear much difference between the Scheerhorn and the Leno, but this is on lap steel, not reso (*shudder* - a capo on a lap steel? Sacrilege!)  |
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Larry Robbins
From:
Fort Edward, New York
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Posted 30 May 2007 2:23 pm
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Besides.....who would want to cover up such a cool looking logo?
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Mark Eaton
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Posted 30 May 2007 2:55 pm
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Now that's the ticket! 
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Terry Sneed
From:
Arkansas,
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Posted 30 May 2007 3:00 pm video
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Larry, I'm coming along better than I thought I would. Thanks for the Video, it helped me a lot!
Now it's time for me to pass it on. I'll start a new thread and see who wants it. Hope it ain't against the rules.
Maybe I'll just post it here.
I have a VHS video by Cindy Cashdollar"learning bluegrass dobro, the first one that sends me a PM gets it free of charge.
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Larry Robbins
From:
Fort Edward, New York
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Posted 30 May 2007 4:46 pm
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Your a Good Guy, Terry!
Paying it forward is what its all about!! 
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Alan Hamley
From:
Queensland, Australia
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Posted 30 May 2007 5:49 pm
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Hi Larry,
Do you think this capo will fit a weissenborn copy. The nut height on mine is 1/4" as per a plan of an original weissenborn. I have been told the Leno Reso capo will fit 1/4" nut height. This new Scheerhorn looks very similar in design to the Leno. Do you think it will work ok?
Thank you for you attention
Cheers
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Larry Robbins
From:
Fort Edward, New York
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Posted 30 May 2007 6:04 pm
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Hi Alan,
I just measuerd the thickness of the rubber sleave on mine and I make it out to be 3/8" thick top to bottom. 
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Alan Hamley
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Queensland, Australia
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Posted 31 May 2007 4:24 am
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Thanks for doing that for me Larry. Looks like its going to be a Leno Dobro Capo for me.
Cheers
Alan |
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Chris Walke
From:
St Charles, IL
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Posted 1 Jun 2007 10:06 am
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| Mark Eaton wrote: |
They are not really designed to go either way...if you go over to the reso specialty forums, like the Jerry Douglas board and Reso-Nation, you'll find that this is one of the more popular questions in regards to Scheerhorn and Scheerhorn/Flux capos.
Unlike the Shubb dobro capo, or any acoustic flat top capo, there is nothing clamping the thing to the neck, so the principle is sort of like a temporary "floating" nut placed at the desired fret marker.
The major disadvantage of putting the brass side down is that if the nut height is slightly lower than normal, or if you are playing "hard" and depressing the string more than usual from bar pressure from say, hammer ons, then the brass will bang onto the fretboard and possibly cause some dings.
The deal on any of these things, when playing out, is to be quick - we all know that sometimes the transition to the next song can happen like right now.
Chris apparently feels that he can "sight" the thing better with the rubber side up - in theory, the sound should not change in either mounting position.
I have seen photos, and have watched many top dobro players at shows that use these two capos, and it seems some go with the brass side up, and others go with the brass side down - I don't think I have ever noticed a real trend one way or the other, but I wouldn't want to take any chances on dinging the fretboard on an expensive reso, so it would be rubber side down for me.
All that said, I believe Tim Scheerhorn himself recommends that his capo be placed with the rubber side down. |
Can't argue with Tim, of course. That being said, on my dobro the string height is about as high as the Scheerhorn brass side is thick. No bounce, it's solid contact, and actually positioned right up against fret, so there's no question as to whether or not it's in the right position or straight. |
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