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Topic: Pod XT Rotory Horn |
James Quackenbush
From: Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 20 May 2007 7:47 am
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When using the Rotary Horn effect, how do you get the effect to ramp up , and ramp down, in speed ??..
I tried hitting the "tap" button like on the older version, but it did not change the speed ...Thanks to all ..Jim |
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Jay Ganz
From: Out Behind The Barn
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Posted 20 May 2007 8:38 am
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Hey Jim,
I don't think you can. At least I've never been able
to after owning one for a few years. I guess that's
one disadvantage compared to the POD 2.0 |
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Jon Light
From: Saugerties, NY
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Posted 20 May 2007 8:51 am
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A vague recollection that may be from a totally different unit:
--try programming a patch with slow leslie and another patch (the next one up, sequentially, i.e. 2A & 2B) with a fast leslie and see what happens when you switch between the patches.
The more I think about it, the more I think it was another box altogether but what the heck. |
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Jonathan Shacklock
From: London, UK
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Posted 20 May 2007 10:36 am
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You only get two speeds, fast or slow, but it ramps realistically between the two.
You can either double hit the Mod button and then use Effect Tweak to toggle the speed. Or better yet you can program the Effect Tweak knob's main function to be 'change speed' as follows:
Hit Edit > Rotate the Select knob clockwise until you get to the last screen> Hit the button under Tweak (second one from left)> Rotate Effect Tweak knob until it says Mod Speed. Hit Edit again.
Last edited by Jonathan Shacklock on 20 May 2007 1:20 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Jay Ganz
From: Out Behind The Barn
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Posted 20 May 2007 1:02 pm
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Sounds like it should work Gotta try it
I'm glad somebody on here knows what he's doin'
I never could understand why the 2.0 could ramp, but not the XT |
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James Quackenbush
From: Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 20 May 2007 1:06 pm
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Jonathan,
That sounds like a lot of work to change speed ... A couple of taps from the old 2.0 Pod, and you went from fast to slow and vice versa ...What's up with this Line 6 ? .... ...
Jon,
Yeah, I was hoping that I wouldn't have to go the "make a patch" routine ... I'd hate to have to do that , but ....Hmmmmm !!....Jim |
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Jonathan Shacklock
From: London, UK
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Posted 20 May 2007 1:33 pm
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I just noticed a mistake in my post (I said Effect when I meant Select) - I've now corrected it.
Yeah I agree James, it is a bit over-complicated but you only have to program the Tweak knob once (4 steps) and you have a dedicated speed control right at your fingertips. Got to be better than the "two patch routine". |
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Jon Light
From: Saugerties, NY
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Posted 20 May 2007 1:54 pm
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It just came to me that the unit I'm thinking of is Peavey Max 100 (or something like that). I haven't used it in ages but it had that feature of ramping up & down when you switched patches between fast & slow. And yes, the Pod2 tap button was hip. I was very surprised to hear that this feature was absent in the XT. |
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James Quackenbush
From: Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 20 May 2007 2:20 pm
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Jonathan,
I did that last tweak that you mentioned with the Edit button ....I can now quickly spin the "Effect Tweak" knob clockwise or counter clockwise to get it to ramp up and down ...Thanks for the tweak tip ...Now if there was only a tweak for a wider range of minimum and maximum speed !!.... Thanks again ...Jim
Jay,
This tweak from Jonathan works well ..as well as can be expected anyway given the lack of control that Line 6 put into the Rotary Horn effect ...Jim
Hit Edit > Rotate the Select knob clockwise until you get to the last screen> Hit the button under Tweak (second one from left)> Rotate Effect Tweak knob until it says Mod Speed. Hit Edit again. |
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Jim Sliff
From: Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 22 May 2007 5:12 am
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But that all sounds like "hand work" - meaning it's not usable live.
For "ramping" effects live I use my Korg G4. It's a better Leslie sim anyway..that's ALL it is! _________________ No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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Jonathan Shacklock
From: London, UK
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Posted 22 May 2007 7:28 am
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Jim, "hand work" as in you have to use your hands? The process is exactly the same for programming the optional floor pedal. Yeah I know, more dough.
If by "hand work" you mean there are several steps involved - you do it once and it's done, saved along with your patches. Either way I don't see how it's more unusable live than any other effect box.
I agree that Korg units seem to have a better handle on rotary effects than the POD. Even the PX4 has dial-in speed plus a setting where the speed ramps in response to your pick attack/volume/dynamics. If you are going to go digital why not enhance the original effect digitally(?).
Then again if the PODxt did everything Line6 wouldn't be able to sell they're own dedicated boxes like the Roto-Machine. |
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Jim Sliff
From: Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 22 May 2007 3:28 pm
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Jonathan - What I meant was, from the description it sounds like you have to turn a knob each time to change speeds - while on the Korg it's the same as a Leslie foot pedal - step on a switch and it ramps up/down. _________________ No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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James Quackenbush
From: Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 24 May 2007 7:03 am
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Jim,
Yes, it is "hand work" but you just flick the effect tweak knob either clockwise or counter clockwise once you have the parameters set up inside the box ...By "flick" I mean there is no fine tune to it !!...Just flick it clockwise for ramp up, and counter, for clock down ( very quick to do ) ..No real finess to it ....Now if you want to adjust the speed slowly, you have to take the time to turn the knob slowly...
My feet are as busy as my hands , so it's a moot point ... Besides, I will have other foot switches to deal with on the floor ...I too like the Korg unit ...It sounds great on portable organs also ...I'm a keyboard player by trade...I don't want to dedicate a pedal for only the leslie effect ...I also agree that the Korg has a LOT more adjustment than the POD XT ...The Pod XT is VERY disapointing on how limitted it is for the Rotary Drum setting ...Even the old Pod 2.0 was better ....Jim |
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