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Topic: The great chord hunt |
ed packard
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Show Low AZ
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Posted 1 May 2007 9:43 am |
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Here are two charts for a tuning setup showing the string notes for a given fret (#2). See how many chords you can find/name.
Last edited by ed packard on 2 May 2007 7:35 am; edited 2 times in total |
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Ray Minich
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Posted 1 May 2007 10:02 am
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I certainly hope this is an open-book take-home test...
14 strings? Wow, there's a whole symphony at one fret.
Ed, noticing the icons at the bottom of your screen, does it take about a half hour for your PC to fire-up?
Gotta get the chart outa Scotty's book to look up the answers.... |
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ed packard
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Show Low AZ
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Posted 1 May 2007 10:11 am
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Ray...I don't know what book you would open to find the answers.
There are more tabs to the program...solves everything from tensions, gauges, frequencies, beats, neck lengths, scales, chords, intervals, ...just about everything for stringed instruments. It knows how to name chords...not by lookup.
Yep, 14 strings...but notice the double lines at strings 10 & 12 so you can trim to fit.
These two charts are for the pedals only, and the levers only...imagine what happens when the two are combined. |
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Ray Minich
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Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 1 May 2007 12:24 pm
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| I noticed that but I wasn't going to bring it up yet... |
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Larry Strawn
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Posted 1 May 2007 12:46 pm chord hunt
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I don't think I can count that high! 
Larry
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b0b
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Posted 1 May 2007 2:01 pm
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It seems to me that the goal of a universal copedent is to have any chord handy, with a few frets of the bar.
Every chord is easily visualized on the piano (or marimba!). Fretted instruments are a more challenging proposition. I think that the pedal steel bridges the gap between them. Close intervals are much easier on steel than on other fretted instruments. It shouldn't be hard to find any chord on pedal steel, once you know where the notes are.
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Colby Tipton
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Crosby, Texas, USA
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Posted 1 May 2007 2:36 pm
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b0b,
I have to say this.
The Great Marimba Has Spoken.
No poon intended.
Just my thoughts, when you have to have a computer to make chords, a tuner that tunes your instrument automatic, hydrolics and a computer to do your pulls for for you.
Who will the Musician be?
I'll probably get hammered for it but I don't care.
Kind of off topic but I think it fits in with it, anyone else.
Colby |
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Bob Tuttle
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Republic, MO 65738
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Posted 1 May 2007 5:28 pm
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| Ed, that picture is so small I can't tell anything about it. How do I make it large enough to read? |
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ed packard
From:
Show Low AZ
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Posted 1 May 2007 6:14 pm
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| Bob T...on my screen it is too large and I have to scroll...looks like it behaves differently on different computers. I will reload it. |
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Alan Brookes
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Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 1 May 2007 6:33 pm
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I just hunt and peck...  |
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Bob Tuttle
From:
Republic, MO 65738
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Posted 1 May 2007 8:06 pm
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| It looks fine now, Ed. Thanks for whatever you did. |
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ed packard
From:
Show Low AZ
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Posted 2 May 2007 7:47 am
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Now that the frame size is fixed:
There are three basics to solving a problem =:
1. What is available to work with?
2. Where do I find it?
3. What can I do with it?
In this blurb, we assume that the reader knows the construction of 4 & 5 tone chords (1.)
We show where to find the 4 & 5 tone chord types on a Bb13 tuning/setup, using fret #2 (C) mostly (2.).
What you can do with the info (3.) depends upon your music style, and your knowledge of progressions.
Here is a chart of the pedals and pedal combinations. and the resulting chord types using each string as the root. The adjacent intervals are on adjacent strings.
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 2 May 2007 10:19 am
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The maximum width for images is set in the CSS file to 740 pixels. You should try to match that when creating images of your spreadsheet pages.
Also, gif or png will probably look better than jpg for these kinds of images. Jpg is better for photos.
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ed packard
From:
Show Low AZ
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Posted 2 May 2007 11:31 am
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B0b....Thanks for the clues...maybe someday. Right now, this stuff is one small part of a project that combines a bunch of different formats, not for Forum.
There might be a few folk that have an interest in the possibilities shown, and if they want "the real thing" and are Excel (the spreadsheet, not the PSG) compatible we will do what we have done in the past and send the files direct.
There will just be a few more chart posts in this thread. The actual Bb13 PALETTE data base is several hundred charts long. Then there is the E9, C6, E9/B6 etc. but I will leave that world to those that sell the info.
As an aside...how compatible is this Forum software with Excel?...Have not tried it yet. |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 2 May 2007 12:35 pm
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| ed packard wrote: |
| As an aside...how compatible is this Forum software with Excel?...Have not tried it yet. |
There are no known points of intersection. |
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Tom Higgins
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New Jersey, USA
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Posted 2 May 2007 1:16 pm Changes
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I hear ya Colby,it seems like half the music you hear today is the product of a software program,not a musician.
Tom |
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Mickey Adams
From:
Bandera Texas
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Posted 2 May 2007 7:40 pm Simple
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The answer is 14 to the 14th power...
The great OZ has spoken......LOL
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ed packard
From:
Show Low AZ
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Posted 3 May 2007 6:02 am
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Mickey A...You little old permutator you..a real Las Vegas answer! Now, how many did you "find/name"?
Now compare with E9/C6.
Some change combinations give the same chord in different places. some change combinations give the same note on two adjacent strings.
Greetings to Buzz. |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 3 May 2007 1:42 pm
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| ed, you've been annoying me with your brain power/chord knowledge ever since b0b started the forum...just to demonstrate the power of my rebelliousness, i'm going to overplay my seven chords until i die!! lest you think i'm some kind of dummy, i did look up 'rebelliousness' to make sure i spelled it right! |
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ed packard
From:
Show Low AZ
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Posted 5 May 2007 6:48 am
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Howdy Chris...long time...I believe it was on the Colorado Belle many moons ago.
I am glad that you are annoyed. Makes us even as your picking dexterity annoys me!
For those that might be interested in where the scale/pockets are on this tuning/setup, here is the no changes activated neck in key of C notes and intervals.
Activating the changes lowers and raises string(s)by a halftone, so there is not much that can't be obtained re scale position, or chords.
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Mickey Adams
From:
Bandera Texas
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Posted 5 May 2007 9:54 am Source
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Is the .XL spred available for download or purchase?...
Buzz says HI back Ed, hes alive and well...
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ed packard
From:
Show Low AZ
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Posted 5 May 2007 10:21 am
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Hey LV "chord counter".
I don't do merchandising (yet?).
In what functions or results are you interested?
http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i287/edpackard/
will get you to the overall info site from this and previous threads pluss a bunch.
The "solve" portion of the spreadsheet is probably too large to email. There is no "how to use" info written up as I am always changing it to do whatever comes to mind, so it is usually messed up somewhere. |
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Mickey Adams
From:
Bandera Texas
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Posted 5 May 2007 12:37 pm .XLS
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Interested in an XL spread like this which can be used to denote scale patterns and chord forms. Preferably with standard C6 and E9 pedal configs. DO you have one that is interactive..with editable changes for pedal/lever activation?
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 5 May 2007 2:40 pm
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| yes sir, ed...played many stints at the colorado belle with 'the rangers'..good memory...and thanx for sharing with us all! |
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