Bud Isaacs Fender Pedal Steel Guitar...is this real???

Casey Lowmiller · From: Kansas

Here's the listing on ebay:

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Is this for real??? If so, anyone have a guess on how much it will go for???

I don't know the seller, can't vouch for them & I'm not connected with this steel in anyway!!! I'm just curious about the history of this steel.

Casey
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Donny Hinson · From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.

Probably for real, but I would still expect it to go for only slightly more than any other Fender pedal steel.

David Doggett · Posted 29 Apr 2007 5:48 pm

Well, that clearly does appear to be a very cool guitar custom made for the great Bud Isaacs. But I would think the only guitar of his that is truly legendary is the Bigsby he used to record Slowly.

Casey Lowmiller · From: Kansas

It would be interesting to see what all changes it has on it???

If memory serves me correctly, I think there might be a black & white pic of him at this steel in the Winnie Winston book. I might be mistaken though!!!

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Jerry Hayes · From: Virginia Beach, Va.

I seems to have a different pickup than most Fender 800 steels and it also looks like the scale has been shortened......JH in Va.
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Joe Drivdahl · From: Montana, USA

Casey,
I think you are right. I thought of that pic in the Winnie Winston book right away too. I think its the same guitar.

Joe

ebb · From: nj

from the master builder paul redmond
"It appears to have PS-210 changer fingers, but a standard 400 changer plate." i also noticed the jack is on the top of the plate

Donny Hinson · From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.

Sorry Ed, I must disagree with Paul.

The fingers are typical of the Fender post '63 design (cable guitar). Strings are inserted backwards through the bridge, and then pulled over the top. Also, the changer and control plate are also of typical Fender model 800 design, (there is nothing there of the PS-210 series). The small tortoise-shell plastic pickguard and pickup were never stock Fender pedal guitar items, nor was the angle-cut Fender fretboard (though the pickguard may have been a cut-down Fender piece from a straight guitar). The round item with 3 screws may be a cut-out switch, or a holder of some kind, it doesn't appear to be a jack - the output jack shows in the stock location, on the end of the guitar (in the underside photo), as does a volume or tone control, and another empty(?) bracket. Also, one foot pedal is missing. The bell-crank is there, but has no cable, and it looks like there was a knee-lever or two mounted near the pickup end at one time. Five newer-style pulleys are evident, as is one older (non triangular) pulley, which looks like it has been added to make a 3 or 4 string pull possible. The underside photo shows a typical post '63 model (double raise/lower) changer, and the entire underside looks to be in fair condition, at best. In contrast, the top side of the guitar looks pristine, which virtually screams "I'm refinished". Other items of minor interest are the missing bridge-cover and infamous mute assembly (which most players removed, anyway), the "shaved" pedals, and the non-stock pickup. Also, the cases (being black) are of '65 or later vintage, so the guitar probably dates from around that period, too.

Jim Sliff · From: Lawndale California, USA

I'm with Donny on this - other than the changes he noted, the changer/pull mechanism looks bone stock.
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Larry Petree · From: Bakersfield. Ca. USA

My guess on the bracket, is a microphone mount. He and his wife Geri both did great harmonies. Larry

Russ Tkac · Posted 1 May 2007 7:48 am

That has a "Funky Cool" look to it. It has "Sliff" written all over it. Smile

Go for it Jim!

Kevin Hatton · From: Buffalo, N.Y.

Jim Sliff, you need this guitar. Bud Isaacs..., Bud Isaacs...

Michael Hardee · Posted 1 May 2007 9:38 am

I asked the seller if the guitar was playable, or if it had been stored so long rust was a problem. No reply. I don't like the looks of the underside, I'd really want to see some closeups but I doubt they would be forthcoming either. I'll pass.

John Bechtel · From: Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.

I sat in with Bud and the band at a Dance Hall in Compton, Ca. in 1970. I was set up directly behind Bud on the same stage and to my very best recollection, Bud was playing a Sunburst Fender 800 w/6-pedals & no knees and tuned to A6th. So, apparently, if it is indeed the same guitar, it has apparently been refinished and the Leather added since ’70. He did indeed play a Fender 800 for quite some time! And of course he also played a Bigsby and even a Sho-Bud!
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Rick Jackson · From: Carson City, Nevada

This is the original color of the guitar when Bud got it from Fender. I asked him about having it refinished and he said he did as it had a lot of scratches on it from all the travel he did. He also stated the pickup on it is a custom made pickup he had made by Robert Venn of Phoenix. Hope this helps. The photos of the underneath are not too good and Geri is going to email me with some better ones. I asked Bud if the cables were rusty and he said no. He said the tone is really good on this guitar due to his custom pickup....Hope this helps...rj

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