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Topic: Zum Hybrid Changer vs Standard Changer |
Rick Byrd
From:
Birmingham, AL, USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2007 7:03 pm |
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Anyone out there in steel land have comments relative to the Zum Hybrid Changer vs the Zum Standard Changer? Tone? Sustain? Feel? Mechanics?
With the Standard Changer you have the option of the anti-detuning device which reduces the amount that strings will go flat when the pedals are engaged.
I would appreciate your information or comments comparing the changers. Thanks. |
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 4 Apr 2007 7:57 pm
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| The Zum steel with the standard changer is one of the most stable steels in the world. The cabinet drop is negligable to begin with. With the detuning device its non existent. The Hybrid throws a little more growling overtones into the sound. They are both top of the line steels for stability and tone. I like the Hybrid myself but would gladly play the standard. |
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 5 Apr 2007 12:59 am
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Rick, since i'm not knowledgeable toward Push Pulls i chose the Standard changer on my D10 9/8 that i received in Feb 2006
this was my 2nd Zum
it has the detuning deepvice on E9 that Kevin mentions
No cabinet drop
i'm totally satisfied in all respects
Zums are totally reliable & precise
Be a Zumbody ! |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2007 6:57 am
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I talked to Bruce a short while back and asked him if Buddy Emmons was playing a hybrid Zum or not. He said that he hadn't made up his mind yet. The last I heard, Buddy was playing a Zum with the standard changer but was thinking about changing to a Zum with the hybrid system. I have a hybrid on order with Bruce.  |
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A. J. Schobert
From:
Cincinnati, Ohio,
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Posted 5 Apr 2007 10:41 am
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| So a hybride looks like a PP and the normal changer is an all pull? Honestly I don't think I have ever saw a picture of a hybride. Toyota makes a nice hybride. |
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Jay Jessup
From:
Charlottesville, VA, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2007 10:55 am
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AJ say Hy to whose bride??
The link on Paddy's post explains how it works, it is an all pull system and looks like an all pull system. The only visible difference is the dominant raises have a brass tuning nut on the changer end of the pull rods (as opposed plastic on the shorter raises and lowers) and you are not supposed to tune those so only that little piece of it works like a push-pull so it's a little confusing tuning it when you first get one but not too hard to adjust to. I have one of each and I do like the way my hybrid plays and sounds. |
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A. J. Schobert
From:
Cincinnati, Ohio,
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Posted 5 Apr 2007 11:47 am
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| JJ you ever post something and wish ya had spell check! I'm kind of laughing now! |
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Rick Byrd
From:
Birmingham, AL, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2007 3:45 pm
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Thanks very much for the comments.
It appears that there are the following basic differences:
The Standard Changer is an all pull system that can accommodate an anti-detuning device to minimize the effect of cabinet drop. The tone is the standard great Zum tone.
The Hybrid Changer is a combination of an all pull system and a push pull system where the primary raises stop against the body of the guitar. The Hybrid apparently has a little bit more growl and overtones in its tone but is not able to accommodate the anti-detuning device. However, the cabinet drop is negligible to begin with.
All of the other features and tuning methods appear to be the same including those for split tuning.
Any additional replies or opinions are welcome! Thanks. |
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 6 Apr 2007 5:04 pm
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| Rick you have it in a nutshell ....I have a standard all pull Zum and a hybrid on order so it will be nice to compare the 2. The standard guitar is absolutely awesome by the way. |
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Rick Byrd
From:
Birmingham, AL, USA
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Posted 9 Apr 2007 8:08 pm
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Thanks for the follow up Paddy. Any additional comments from owners of the standard changer Zum and the hybrid changer Zum would be greatly appreciated !!!
Is the hybrid tone "thicker" with more mids than the standard changer? Does the standard changer have a more "open" tone with more deep lows and upper high end? Is the sustain different? Is the "feel" different? Does the anti-detuning device on the standard changer make a big difference over the hybrid?
Thanks again. |
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Tommy R. Butler
From:
Nashville, Tennessee
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Rick Byrd
From:
Birmingham, AL, USA
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Posted 11 Apr 2007 7:49 pm
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| Thanks Tommy! The videos of Buddy E and the other musicians are fabulous. |
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