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Topic: old jbl 130f 140f |
tomsteel
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Posted 9 Mar 2007 6:55 pm |
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| What is the differance between the old jbl d140 and the d130?I noticed that Jerry Garcia,s old Sho-Bud amp had a jbl140.thomas malugin |
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Mike Fried
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Nashville, TN, USA
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Posted 9 Mar 2007 7:23 pm
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Tom, the D140F was a bass speaker while the D130F was a full-range speaker designed for electric guitar. Some players (myself included) did/do prefer the more subdued high end of D140 in some guitar and steel amps, though.
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Jim Sliff
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Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 10 Mar 2007 9:09 am
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Mike, also the "F" suffix was a Fender-specific model of each. Oddly, I have never found one piece of data showing any difference between a D140 and D140F - other than the printing of the "F"!
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 10 Mar 2007 10:19 am
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Jim, a few years back on the old Forum someone posted a link to some JBL history from someone who worked there. The D series speakers were originally intended for use in hifi systems. In order to make them a little hardier for instrument speakers, they widened the voice coil gap slightly and added the F to the name (for Fender, the original contractor), which made them slightly less efficient, but sturdier. Later, after they discontinued the D series, they brought them back at the request of amp makers like Sho-Bud and Peavey. These were like the F series, and were called M##, where the ## were specific numbers for specific manufacturers. I have a D130 (not an F) and an M31 (from Sho-Bud) in matching closed-back ported cabinets, and I can't hear any difference.
P.S.: I recently dropped the cab with the D130 from 8 ft. onto carpeted stairs, where it tumbled down the long stairs. I plugged it in and it played as good as ever. That's sturdy enough for me. 
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Mike Fried
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Nashville, TN, USA
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Posted 10 Mar 2007 10:21 am
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Jim, my understanding of the supposed difference is the voice coil gap being enlarged in the "F" series speakers, which improved their power-handling but reduced their effeciency. Fender allegedly requested the design change for their speakers after a number of warranty returns on early Showmans and JBL-equipped Twins. I've never seen actual design specs for either, though, so this may be urban legend...
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Jim Sliff
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Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 10 Mar 2007 3:54 pm
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Yep guys - I've heard the same thing...but as Mike notes, it's never been confirmed with any printed info from Fender or JBL, so it could be true or urban legend...no way to know.
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No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 13 Mar 2007 3:34 pm
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Merely as a point of information, the original D130 JBL was only rated at 25 watts.  |
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