| Author |
Topic: National New Yorker and Vintage Tube Amps |
Rick Alexander
From:
Florida, USA, R.I.P.
|
Posted 9 Feb 2007 7:09 am |
|
I just acquired two small vintage amps - a 56 tweed Champ and 61 Gibson Maestro GA-1RT. They both work great, and to give them a test run I recorded my National New Yorker through both amps. I also played my Gibson ES335 through the Maestro and a harmonica through the Champ, using the cheapest mic I could find. This isn't a song with melody and lyrics, it's more like interweaving noodles in a bluesy broth. There are also 2 acoustic guitar trax, organ, bass and drums.
The page with file embedded and pics is here.
and the MP3 itself is here. |
|
|
 |
Bill Leff
From:
Santa Cruz, CA, USA
|
Posted 9 Feb 2007 8:02 am
|
|
Sweet!!!
 |
|
|
|
Randy Reeves
From:
LaCrosse, Wisconsin, USA
|
Posted 9 Feb 2007 8:51 am
|
|
I love old amps. espeacially if they have those Jensens with the big ol' alnico magnet .
I have a 58 Gibsonette. just an on/off switch and a ten inch Jensen. a great amp. blues harp guys kill for these. |
|
|
|
Bill Creller
From:
Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
|
Posted 9 Feb 2007 9:14 am
|
|
NICE National Newyorkers have beauitful sound. I have had one since new, circa 1950, and tha National/Valco amp to go with it. Still have the broshure that came with the stuff. Also have a National flat top dreadnaught model 1155 that I bought at the same time. 
Nice guitars Rick
Regards BILL |
|
|
|
Derrick Mau
From:
Honolulu, Hawaii, USA
|
Posted 9 Feb 2007 9:55 am
|
|
Hi Bill,
Interested in selling it?? |
|
|
|
Bill Creller
From:
Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
|
Posted 9 Feb 2007 2:36 pm
|
|
| You don't have enough money BUD |
|
|
|
Gary Boyett
From:
Colorado/ Lives in Arizona
|
Posted 9 Feb 2007 5:19 pm
|
|
That sounds great Rick! I like that groove.
Now, after the title of this song are you following up with
"Viagra Nights"
  |
|
|
|
Gary Stevenson
From:
Northern New York,USA
|
Posted 9 Feb 2007 8:57 pm Rick's collection
|
|
| When you get up in the morning, how-n-the-hell, do you pick one to play. What a sweet collection, Rick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
|
|
|
Richard Sevigny
From:
Salmon Arm, BC, Canada
|
Posted 9 Feb 2007 9:20 pm Standing at atttention...
|
|
Gary,
I think he'd follow it with The Hard Way 
_________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If at first the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it.
-Albert Einstein |
|
|
|
Derrick Mau
From:
Honolulu, Hawaii, USA
|
Posted 9 Feb 2007 11:57 pm
|
|
Bill,
You want U.S. currency or yen??
|
|
|
|
Gerald Ross
From:
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
|
|
|
|
Bill Creller
From:
Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
|
Posted 10 Feb 2007 6:59 am
|
|
Good one GB!!!!!
If I had all those bucks I would hire a steel player and a bartender. 
But I really don't have a yen for YEN |
|
|
|
Andy Barlo
From:
Schererville, Indiana, USA * R.I.P.
|
Posted 10 Feb 2007 8:10 am
|
|
| In other words Derrick, IT'S NOT FOR SALE. |
|
|
|
Derrick Mau
From:
Honolulu, Hawaii, USA
|
Posted 10 Feb 2007 9:23 am
|
|
There's an old Chinese saying that you time these offers when the seller is most vunerable. (When you know he or she is out of cash)
 |
|
|
|
Al Marcus
From:
Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
|
Posted 10 Feb 2007 12:53 pm
|
|
Rick is a lucky one with that National New Yorker. I had one in 1937 and loved it compared to my Supro. I got a lot of compliments about the tone and looks it had, from the dancers and listeners.
I took two high bar stools and put the case across the top and draped some nice satin material over the front and stood up and played it. Made it even more impressive....al.
_________________
Michigan (MSGC)Christmas Dinner and Jam on my 80th Birthday.
My Email.. almarcus@cmedic.net
My Website..... www.cmedic.net/~almarcus |
|
|
|
Bill Creller
From:
Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
|
Posted 10 Feb 2007 2:59 pm
|
|
| That's OK BUD.. They will probably bury me with it, like the guy who had the bakelite buried with him!! |
|
|
|
Rick Alexander
From:
Florida, USA, R.I.P.
|
Posted 10 Feb 2007 6:32 pm
|
|
| Quote: |
| I took two high bar stools and put the case across the top and draped some nice satin material over the front and stood up and played it. Made it even more impressive....al |
Now why didn't I think of that??
| Quote: |
| When you get up in the morning, how-n-the-hell, do you pick one to play |
eenie meenie miny moe . .
Thanks Bill - thanks G-man ! |
|
|
|
Paul Honeycutt
From:
Colorado, USA
|
Posted 12 Feb 2007 9:53 pm
|
|
| My lap steel is a New Yorker. I have a '52 Silvertone "Champ" that a local amp builder restored a couple of years ago. In fact the National sounds better through that amp then any of my regular guitars. |
|
|
|
Rick Alexander
From:
Florida, USA, R.I.P.
|
Posted 13 Feb 2007 4:56 am
|
|
Paul, you're right. New Yorkers sound killer through this 56 Champ - which has a bright saturated sound.
When I add the Maestro, which has a dark saturated sound - it's really fat.
I've been using the Morley Triplers to switch and mix amps - it's cooler than a pedal board full of stomp boxes.
A lot less unwanted noise and signal degradation, that's for sure.
It's fun recording with this type of setup - no plugging and unplugging to try different sounds.
Morley Triplers
56 Champ, 61 Maestro
6 & 8 string New Yorkers on a Don Burrows Lap Steel Stand
RA |
|
|
|
Bill Creller
From:
Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
|
Posted 13 Feb 2007 7:20 am
|
|
That amp on the right side in the picture... is that a Tweed Deluxe Rick??
I built a Tweed Deluxe clone this winter which looks like that
I wasn't aware that there were 8 string New Yorkers built, nice.
BILL |
|
|
|
Rick Alexander
From:
Florida, USA, R.I.P.
|
Posted 13 Feb 2007 7:49 am
|
|
Bill, that's a new Blues Jr, which looks very much like a narrow panel Deluxe but doesn't sound like one at all. I just bought a 53 wide panel Deluxe, which is a bit smaller and has less wattage (10-14). It's being restored by the best vintage amp tech in the world right now. He has a beautiful narrow panel Deluxe that he brought over to show me last night. It smokes the Blues Jr.
This is my "new" 53 Deluxe here:
It's been relic-ed real good - by time and circumstance.
Tweed Deluxes are great for lap steel and guitar.
Yeah, that's the only 8 string New Yorker I've seen - so maybe they didn't make very many of them. The string spacing is a bit tight, but I've gotten used to it. It has Rick Aiello NIBros installed, that literally brought it back from the dead. When I put them in, I found that one of the existing magnets was a wooden dummy. The other one was completely spent, but then it's an early 30s model. With the NIBros it sounds beautiful.
RA |
|
|
|
Bill Creller
From:
Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
|
Posted 13 Feb 2007 10:38 am
|
|
That 8 string was a great find
That Tweed has character!! Like the used car dealers like to say, previously enjoyed!!
I'm waiting for the cab I'm having built for the Princeton Reverb I just built. I tried it out with the speaker in my Tweed Deluxe, which is a Weber, and it's SWEET.
Regards BILL |
|
|
|
Vince Luke
From:
Iowa, USA
|
Posted 13 Feb 2007 11:22 am What's that dial?
|
|
Those are cool-looking guitars and you get a great sound out of them, Rick.
Question for you or anyone else familiar with New Yorkers: I've never seen one in person, and noticed in the pictures that the dial at the butt end (which I had assumed was a tone or volume control) says "harp/chimes/hawaiian"--what is that?
Vince |
|
|
|
Rick Alexander
From:
Florida, USA, R.I.P.
|
Posted 13 Feb 2007 12:02 pm
|
|
| Vince, it's basically a tone control. Hawaiian is bass, Chimes is midrange and Harp is treble. |
|
|
|
Vince Luke
From:
Iowa, USA
|
Posted 13 Feb 2007 12:42 pm
|
|
Aha.
Thanks for sharing you tunes, your collection, and your expertise! |
|
|
|
