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Rick Aiello
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Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 11 Mar 2005 7:17 am |
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I know y'all know all this ...
But since alot has been said in the last week or so about website "sound samples" ... I thought I'd give my "take" on it.
It's just a "No Win" situation for folks who build guitars ... and for the folks who want to buy them.
Customers want to hear these things ... of course ...
But what gets put up as a "sample" is never what the guitar will sound like ... when its in your lap with you "drivin' it".
I listen to the various clips on these sites and even though I "know better" ...
I am "swayed" by the "type of music", the virtuosity of the player and the processing (or lack of) that is associated with the sample.
Shoot ... I've now put a "virtual CD" on my site ... just trying to let folks hear my stuff ...
And because of my musicial preferences and "style" ... I know I send most folks "runnin' for the hills" ... 
There just "Ain't no other way" ...
So many fine new things are being built for such a small population of players ... complicated by folks interested in this kinda stuff ... being scattered from one corner of the globe to the other.
"Ain't no other way" ... 
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Aiello's House of Gauss
My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield
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Gerald Ross
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Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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Posted 11 Mar 2005 8:04 am
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I agree Rick, it's a no-win situation.
An instrument's tone is such a delicate thing. Things such as the amount of humidity in air, the type of strings used, the player's ability (big one) etc. etc all affect the tone at any GIVEN MOMENT. The same amp settings that sound absolutely perfect on a Tuesday night in Georgia can sound like crap on Wednesday morning in Abileen.
Recording techniques... through the use of EQ, Compression etc you can really manipulate the tone.
Just to toot my own horn... When I worked at Elderly Instruments I used to pride myself in being able make the inexpensive (politically correct term) guitars sound good. I sold a lot of $75 instruments just by demoing them.
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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'
Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website
Board of Directors Hawaiian Steel Guitar Association
[This message was edited by Gerald Ross on 11 March 2005 at 08:05 AM.] |
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Bob Hickish
From:
Port Ludlow, Washington, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 11 Mar 2005 8:51 am
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It is a new world out there , & what
you are saying Rick ! Seems to be
the way business is done now days ( I don't like it )
but what are the alternatives ? Even the music that
got us all started on the steel has been sidestepped ! but thanks
to the digital recording systems out there now , we
can get the music we like , and here our Fellow Steelers .
Like Gerald said - an instrument in the right hands works
wonders - on the same token a Good instrument in bad
hands !!! So What do you do ?
Rick ! you using the old stile bar ( flatty ) !!! you do
wonders with it ! but to me its like the stone age and was
glad it was left behind ! But that don't mean the flatty was
no good in the right hands .
What I suggest ! some one start selling the right hands
with the instrument you buy ( Just Joking )
I think I'm on the same subject with you guys !!!
Bob |
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Rick Aiello
From:
Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 11 Mar 2005 9:01 am
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| When I worked at Elderly Instruments I used to pride myself in being able make the inexpensive (politically correct term) guitars sound good. I sold a lot of $75 instruments just by demoing them. |
I thought I recognized that guy on TV ... 
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Rick ! you using the old stile bar ( flatty ) !!! you do wonders with it !
but to me its like the stone age
I know you mean "Bronze Age" ... |
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Joel Newman
From:
Smithsburg, Maryland, USA
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Posted 11 Mar 2005 9:23 am
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You know Ric, call me crazy but I think modern technology has really helped your situation. I would have never have known anything pertaining to steel guitar if it wasn't for this forum,(which to my mind is all new as the PC is relatively new), let alone all the amazing things you make. . . The visualization of the different vibrato's you posted not that long ago couldn't of been done in the 70's let alone the 40's, and what classy info at that!
I think you've managed to hit your 'niche' market dead on through this forum.
Who in here wouldn't want an Aiello metal body steel?? (by the way, not to stroke you too hard but is there anyone else on this planet that does what you do?). You are the mad scientist/rock star of lap steel,(ok, so you've got a hump on one side, and you have a penchant for Gina Lola briggitta, . .who dosen't). . . .Maybe you can't compete with some name brand guit./pick up makers now but I think it takes a long time to get established. This is just my vote of confidence . . .(my,my I do ramble I hope I didn't go too far off topic) . . . |
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Rick Aiello
From:
Berryville, VA USA
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 12 Mar 2005 11:55 am
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I don't know how it could be any other way.
I loved the songs the carbon fiber teardrop played, and I know it wouldn't sound as good in my lap; but I'll bet within a minute I could come up with something that would make me fall in love with it.
Like Gerald implies, it's in the moment.
Once I get it home, it's up to me. |
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Les Anderson
From:
The Great White North
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Posted 12 Mar 2005 1:16 pm
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There is no way on God's earth that a recorded instrument on a CD or, over the Internet, can give you the same feeling that standing in front of that same instrument while being played will give you.
I would never buy “any” musical instrument based on the sound I heard over the net or on a recording. It has to be with that instrument being played right in front of me. There are no exceptions.
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(I am not right all of the time but I sure like to think I am!)
[This message was edited by Les Anderson on 12 March 2005 at 01:18 PM.] |
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Rick Aiello
From:
Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 12 Mar 2005 3:18 pm
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I guess thats why they have Steel Guitar Conventions ...
I'll see y'all in Joliet ... HSGA 2005 ...
I'll be "Loaded for Bear" ... 
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Aiello's House of Gauss
My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 12 Mar 2005 4:16 pm
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| I bought my Baritone Weiss (which arrives weds by the way) strictly because of a clip of Dan Tyack playing his. One sound and I had to have that instrument. Sometimes you have to take a chance. |
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Don Kona Woods
From:
Hawaiian Kama'aina
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Posted 13 Mar 2005 9:43 am
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FURTHERMORE:
ONE DOES NOT KNOW THE SOUND OF THE INSTRUMENT UNTIL HE/SHE PLAYS IT.
THEN THAT IS THE SOUND.
ALOHA,
DON |
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... I agree.