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Jim Wilson


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Post  Posted 18 Jan 2007 6:58 am    
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I have played a Franklin D-10 for years. It is a great steel and hate to change. I am "getting too old" to lug it around.

I am looking for a SD-10 due to the weight of the Franklin. Have been looking at GFI, Carter and Mullen.

Any advice?

Thanks!
Jim
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Bob Knight


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Bowling Green KY
Post  Posted 18 Jan 2007 7:53 am     SHOW PRO
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If I were looking for a new guitar, The Show Pro would be at the top of my list.
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Neil Lang


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Albert Lea, Minnesota, USA
Post  Posted 18 Jan 2007 8:21 am    
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James,
May I suggest......a nice Pro I Sho-Bud, newer version? They are very light weight and play very,very nice & stay in tune. They are gorgeous! And they won't break your bank account! But then thats just an opinion........like other things........we all have them!

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A. J. Schobert

 

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Cincinnati, Ohio,
Post  Posted 18 Jan 2007 8:31 am    
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Jim going from a D10 to a S10 I would think will loose alot of weight, did you think of getting a dolly or having a wheeled case I would think that would help, I would try to do everything before I retired my franklin, I have a new Carter it is very nice.
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Bob Hoffnar


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Austin, Tx
Post  Posted 18 Jan 2007 9:14 am    
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The Franklin is already a pretty light guitar. You may want to look into the actual weights af steels without there cases. You may be surprized to find you already own one of the lightest steels. Franklins are one of the most rare and sought after steels in the world. It would be a real shame to give up a Franklin for the sake of a couple pounds. I would look into lighter or two piece cases and well made hand trucks.

As far as really light guitars go I would check into keyless excel ,GFI and Williams. Buddy Charleton is playing a GFI these days and he said he was happy with it.
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Thom Beeman

 

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Post  Posted 18 Jan 2007 9:49 am    
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James, save your money till you test drive a, DESERT ROSE D-10. Smooth and LIGHT. Chuck Back will show you how to save weight and money on your guitar.
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Mark Eaton


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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
Post  Posted 18 Jan 2007 9:58 am    
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James never actually said that he's giving up on the Franklin-it just might stay at home most of the time, am I correct, James?

I think I would bow to it each time before I sat down to play it.

I don't don't have an SD-10, but I have a GFI Ultra S-10 keyless. Out of the case I believe it is 26 lbs., and 38 lbs. in the case.
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Sonny Priddy

 

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Post  Posted 18 Jan 2007 10:48 am     steel
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You Mite Want To Try Out A New Magnum Or GFI They Are Great I Have Them Bouth. Bobbie Seymour Has Them. SONNY.
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Billy Carr

 

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Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 18 Jan 2007 10:54 am     lightweight S-10D
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There's several light guitars on the market. The new MAGNUM is a great guitar. 31lbs. out of the case and 49lbs. in the case. I was really surprised the first time I sat behind one recently. I'm telling you this, not trying to sell you a guitar, as I am a dealer for Magnum, Fessenden, Carter Starters & Performance, that's not the point. I just believe you may be surprised at this little guitar. I order mine with the George L 10-1 SS p/u or the Bill Lawrence XR-16. Email me for prices, in case you might be interested. Thanks and good luck.
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Mark Eaton


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Post  Posted 18 Jan 2007 11:08 am     Re: lightweight S-10D
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Billy Carr wrote:
I just believe you may be surprised at this little guitar.


Billy, I know you have only the best of intentions in discussing the Magnum, so please don't take this as a sign of disrespect, but I have also read where Bobbe Seymour refers to the lightweight GFI's as "great little guitars."

And when I have read that in the past, as a GFI owner, it sort of makes it sound like it's not quite the real deal, like a pedal steel with training wheels, and someday I hope to graduate to a "big boys" steel guitar! Smile
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Billy Carr

 

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Post  Posted 18 Jan 2007 11:56 am     Little guitars
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No problem. When I refer to a guitar as a "little guitar", I'm simply using the term to refer to it as a lightweight. That means it's not a problem to carry around. The lightweight S-10D's are great little guitars and most any of them can easily match a D-10 in tone and sound. Just not as heavy. Many times I'll just throw a S-10D in the car and go do a session or play a gig. The amp is usually heavier.
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Tim Bridges

 

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Hoover, Alabama, USA
Post  Posted 18 Jan 2007 12:04 pm     Franklin Home
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IF you plan to sell the Franklin, I would be duely honored to be first on your list of contacts. Very Happy
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Jim Wilson


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Huntingdon, Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 18 Jan 2007 1:16 pm    
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Thank's for all the replys and i hope they keep coming as i am looking for advice( other than just quitting playing ) I plan on keeping my Franklin could never part with it. I've been playing out about 2-3 nites a week and that's why i am looking for sompthing a little lighter. Jim
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Vic Lawson

 

From:
White House, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 18 Jan 2007 2:13 pm    
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Check out Rittenberry guitars they are light and sound great.
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Joey Gaskins

 

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New Bern, North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 18 Jan 2007 2:32 pm    
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Don't forget the Williams Single with the half pad. I never broke a string, and at times they were on for 3 months. Great sound, and a choice of mica or lacqer for the same price.
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Scott Henderson


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Camdenton, Missouri, USA
Post  Posted 18 Jan 2007 2:53 pm    
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I JUST HOPE MY WIFE DOESN'T GET SO OLD AND FRAIL THAT SHE CAN'T LUG MY GEAR!!!!!

(Hope she doesn't read this or I'm in BIG trouble)
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Roger Shackelton

 

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Post  Posted 18 Jan 2007 4:11 pm    
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What Joey said, and the guitar weighs 30 pounds set up & ready to play.
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Robert Jones


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Branson, Missouri
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2007 11:00 am    
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James I can't say that one steel is better than the other or that one is any lighter than the other, but if you decide you don't want the Franklin holler at me and I'll take it off your hands. I don't mind the weight!!!
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Mike Perlowin


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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2007 11:17 am    
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2 words:

MSA Millennium
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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2007 12:21 pm    
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I would like to know, Mike P., how the ultralight Millenium performs.
Carbon fiber is stiff, and brittle, which goes with that; does it have good response re 'cabinet drop?' (There are other factors, of course.)
Just wondering about your overall feeling after having had it this long.
I would think only a Lone Star Skeleton would be lighter.
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Bobbe Seymour

 

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Hendersonville TN USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2007 2:17 pm    
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I'd go with the new "Rumble-Snapper 2000"....
.. It weighs 14 pounds in the case, Edmons setup with two Franklin pedals, will raise the first string four steps, and comes in 47 different colors and four of the same colors.
Waiting time for a new one is about five minuets, not counting weekends.
It is a ten raise and seven lower changer, Home Depot is the place to get the best deal on one. Mine is Orange and seems to sound best. It is delivered with a small hammer to tune the key-less setup.
Let me ask-ya, what else could you ask for????


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Mike Wheeler


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Delaware, Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2007 2:19 pm    
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I can solve your problem, Mr. James.

Buy an MSA or a Dekley D-10. By the time you get it in the house, your Franklin will seem light as a feather!!!!

Laughing Laughing
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Bobbe Seymour

 

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Hendersonville TN USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2007 2:22 pm    
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Mike, how could you tell him that something is better than a Rumplesnapper?
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Mike Wheeler


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Delaware, Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2007 2:24 pm    
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Just trying to keep the resale value from getin' too high. Those are an unknown treasure!! SSHHHHHHHH!!!
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Chip Fossa

 

From:
Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2007 2:52 pm    
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I play a Williams keyless U-12. 51lbs in the case. It's got all I need to play my style.

I have a pretty good Chevy full van with a 'diamond' rubber floor in the cargo section. I don't even bother casing the steel anymore. It came with a complimentary leather[ette] cover, and I just lash it inside the van with only 2 bunjie cords, and anchored against the van's cabinets. It travels real well, and is quickly and readily available to deliver music.

But if I were to take a real extensive trip, I would certainly case her up.
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