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Topic: Stratosphere Boogie - HELP |
Steve Merritt
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Alameda, California, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2005 1:40 pm |
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This is a bit off topic, but I need help settling an argument regarding Stratosphere Boogie. Does anyone here know (as in definitively!) How Jimmy Bryant tuned the 12 string neck of his Stratosphere Twin on Stratosphere Boogie?
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John McGann
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Boston, Massachusetts, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 8 Feb 2005 2:23 pm
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I haven't messed with it but I read somewhere that it was a combination of major and minor thirds...
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Andy Volk
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Boston, MA
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Posted 8 Feb 2005 2:27 pm
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Definitive? Maybe, maybe not ...
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum10/HTML/004708.html
Rich Kneizle:
On their next session together, September 3, 1954, he used a doubleneck Stratosphere Twin guitar (he owned part of the Stratosphere company), playing on the 12 string neck with its pairs of strings tuned in thirds. It gave him a radically different sound, as though he had overdubbed a harmony part, and the four songs they recorded remain some of his finest moments. |
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Steve Merritt
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Alameda, California, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2005 2:33 pm
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| Well, I've tried major thirds and it doesnt seem quite right, maybe a combo of major and minor thirds.... |
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Billy Wilson
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El Cerrito, California, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2005 2:34 pm
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Steve,I heard it was something like this.
High to low: GE EC CA AG GE EC
What this does is allow you to play all the two note harmonies that you could get on a C6th steel guitar on ajacent strings but play them as if they are single strings. This could make for some speedy two note harmony playing. Terrific idea! BW |
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Ian Finlay
From:
Kenton, UK
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Posted 8 Feb 2005 2:52 pm
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Are the pairs in the same octave, or an octave apart like a conventional 12-string?
Ian |
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Billy Wilson
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El Cerrito, California, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2005 2:56 pm
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| same octave |
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Steve Merritt
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Alameda, California, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2005 3:24 pm
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BW~
Thanks for idea, I'll give it a try...however due to my intensely retarded nature, I will most likely end up poking one of my eyes out! |
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Stephan Miller
From:
Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2005 3:53 pm
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| Steve -- Billy could be right...though I heard it was all minor thirds. Jeez, now I'll have to dig it out of a pile of cassettes... -Steve M. |
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Dylan Schorer
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Salt Lake City, Utah, USA
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Posted 9 Feb 2005 6:51 am
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It's definitely a combination of minor and major thirds. When it worked this out a while ago, I figured it was tuned to minor thirds except for the 6th and 2nd string pairs:
EG# AC DF GBb BD# EG
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-----------------|------------------|-7-6-5-4---------0--
-----------------|---------10-9-8-7-|---------8-7-6-5----
---------4---6-4-|-----6-9----------|--------------------
---4-5-6---6-----|-5-8--------------|--------------------
-7---------------|------------------|--------------------
I got interested in these cross tunings after hearing guys like Frank Wakefield do it on the mandolin. Bill Monroe even used similar mandolin tunings for songs like "Get Up John." [This message was edited by Dylan Schorer on 09 February 2005 at 06:52 AM.] |
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John Billings
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 9 Feb 2005 2:52 pm
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I seem to remember that there was a story about Bryant in Guitar Player Magazine quite a few years ago. It included a small, flexible record, and the tab, and tunings for this song. Maybe you can find it somewhere on the web.
JB |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 9 Feb 2005 3:00 pm
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| Just type "Stratosphere Boogie tablature" into your search engine. I used Dogpile, and came up with a couple dozen places to get the tab for this song. JB |
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