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Larry Beck


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Pierre, SD
Post  Posted 25 Dec 2006 5:45 pm    
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T.C. Helicon's Voiceworks has several modes of harmony. The scalar harmony lets you set the scale, then the interval (say a third) and it will generate a harmony voice that tracks the lead voice maintaining the selected scale interval.
Un-accompanied, this sounds ok, but somewhat "barbershop-ish", with instuments, not so good.

The other method is to play a chord on a midi device and the unit will generate harmony based on chord tones rather than fixed interval tracking.
The second mode sounds a lot more like what you hear in a band with someone singing harmony.

I want this unit to generate the harmony parts from the lead singer's track.

Any practical tips, music theory, experience, etc to pass on?
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basilh


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Post  Posted 26 Dec 2006 4:48 am    
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The scalar harmony lets you set the scale, then the interval (say a third) and it will generate a harmony voice that tracks the lead voice maintaining the selected scale interval.

That in itself is no good, you need to vary the interval to suit the chord changes. How you do that is hard to explain (By Me) and in the case of a beginner at harmony, probably just guesswork. 3rds, 4ths and 5ths, in the way of intervals, depending upon the chord under the melody.

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Larry Beck


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Post  Posted 26 Dec 2006 1:34 pm    
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Basil,
Exactly! The midi chord method does let you do that. You can change the chords in "real" time throughout the song and thus generate the kind of harmony you are talking about that fits with the chords.

Curious type that I am, I want to know the why of it which might lead me to how live harmony singers find the right harmony notes, or how one plays harmony to another instrument.
As an example, take the B part of S-G-Rag which is a repeated 3 note arpeggio. Do you just move down a string or two in the same chord position to get a twin part? Or is this a secret that everyone else is in on and I'm the only one who hasn't been told Winking
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Michael Garnett

 

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Post  Posted 17 Jan 2007 11:45 pm    
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Larry Beck wrote:
Basil,As an example, take the B part of S-G-Rag which is a repeated 3 note arpeggio. Do you just move down a string or two in the same chord position to get a twin part? Or is this a secret that everyone else is in on and I'm the only one who hasn't been told Winking


That's one of the reasons your guitar was engineered to be tuned that way. If you need some literature to get to sleep at night, try googling "Diatonic." Be sure you don't google "Dianetics," because that's Scientology, not Music Theory. Laughing
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