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Topic: Renamed: Losing the C pedal (second thoughts) |
Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 1 Feb 2024 7:19 am |
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The jury is back in....
I miss the C pedal more than I expected to.
BUT: I have learned that I want that change (raising 5 & 6); there's so much it gives me.
My KLs are already spoken for, all except LKV, which has been a 'floater' for me. I may restore the C pedal (yes, I know: 'We told you so!'  ) and assign that 5/6 raise to either LKV or to pedal 8 (P7 might be better; it only has two pulls now).
I'm intrigued by Stephen's 'raising the 9th' suggestion.
I'm now wondering just how attached I am to the 7,2,1 raise (my LKL2). That's the closest thing to a 'lick pedal' that I have, even if it does permit some nice voicings.
(While all this is going on, I am still practicing; in the end, that's what yields results. )
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Roger Rettig: Emmons D10, Quilter TT-12 & TT-15, B-bender Teles and Martins - and, at last, a Gibson Super 400!
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Andrew Frost
From:
Toronto, Ontario
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Posted 1 Feb 2024 9:07 am
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FWIW, I have that string 6 G# - A# raise on its own, right beside the A pedal. For me its a zero pedal. Combined with the B-C# on the A pedal it does the whole tone raise of 5 & 6.
I find it to be a little more versatile that way, as a single raise or combined with the A pedal. Does a plethora of things, as well a nice unison with 5 lowered to Bb if you have it. Food for thought. |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 1 Feb 2024 9:57 am
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Andrew:
That's a possibility. I could take my 6+9-lower off P4 and put it on LKV; then, just have the G#-A# on P4.
Years ago, I had that as a solitary pull but, for some reason, it got dumped for something else.
I do now feel as though ditching pedal C was a touch hasty. I love my new P4 but, as you say, put it adjacent to the A pedal (my P3) and it's far more versatile.
It's Murphy's Law: just when I told myself "I hardly ever play the B+C pedals together", I now wish I had it again.
Your suggestion, Andrew, is more efficient. (And yes, I do have B-Bb lower and it's very much used!)
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Roger Rettig: Emmons D10, Quilter TT-12 & TT-15, B-bender Teles and Martins - and, at last, a Gibson Super 400!
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Bengt Erlandsen
From:
Brekstad, NORWAY
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Posted 1 Feb 2024 1:19 pm
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After looking at your copedent It just dawned on me that P1 would be a really cool place for string 7 and 1 F#-F. It works really well together with your LKL E's to Eb changing the m7 voicing usually found there into a m6th voicing.
My JCH D10 have the E9 7th string F#-F on the P4(C6 both A's to B) so I can use it together with LKR(E's to Eb)). I ditched the 1st string lower as it made the pedal too stiff since it works on both necks.
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Pat Chong
From:
New Mexico, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2024 2:03 pm
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Hi Roger,
A thought: moving pedal 4's operation to RKR, to string 6 or 7. (Although a lever moving 6 strings, might be too stiff....)
Anyway, it would free up pedal 4 for the A# move and for it's use with your A pedal (or you might use one of your higher pedals to use the change with both the A or B pedals). It will also allow you to re-install pedal "C".
I, too, have E > F#, but on a pedal, I needed the faster change. However my C pedal still is used...............Pat |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 1 Feb 2024 2:27 pm
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Thanks, guys....
Pat:
Right now, not only do I have five pulls on RKR: it's quite a long throw dropping my 10th to A (love that change!) and, on C6th, raising both As the whole-step to B. Right now, that KL is far easier to use than I deserve (thanks, Junior!) so I'm loathe to add anything more to it.
Here's how I now think I'm going:
Restoring the C pedal: that's done.
P4's changes (lowering 6 and 9) will go to LKL2.
P4 will then raise the 6th to A# (adjacent to my A pedal for raising 5 and 6).
LKL2's changes - 1,2,7 raise - will go on my LKV. Now, with the extender, that's a breeze to engage so I anticipate no issues with that assignment.
I want to raise 9 and 2 a half-step each; I'm 'out' of KLs, so two new rods for P7 will cover that nicely (I'd use P8, but that has four pulls now). It's only an occasional change and can be two-footed without losing any options.
I have my fingers crossed that I don't do something to spoil the fine work that's just been carried out on my terrific guitar.
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Roger Rettig: Emmons D10, Quilter TT-12 & TT-15, B-bender Teles and Martins - and, at last, a Gibson Super 400!
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