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Topic: Five knees? |
Phil Halton
From:
Holyoke, Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 19 Aug 2007 12:49 pm |
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New to the steel, I've got a question about knee levers. I've got two knees--one on each leg, and each can move in two directions--left and right. So, I don't understand how you can have five knee levers. Told ya I was a newbie! Can someone explain this fifth knee lever to me?
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 19 Aug 2007 1:01 pm
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| The standard #5 is a vertical lever. You either raise your leg from the hip or push off the A and/or B pedals from the toes. I have 8 levers. The extra 3 are front/back arrayed----you lean or scootch forward or back to activate one, clear the other. |
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Ulf Edlund
From:
Umeå, Sweden
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Posted 19 Aug 2007 1:03 pm
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Oops. Jon beat me to it.
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Brad Malone
From:
Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 19 Aug 2007 1:12 pm Thoughts about knee levers
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| Hey guys, here is a thought about knee levers. Just because one has seven knee levers does not mean one has to always have them all extended..if a couple of them are not called for in the arragement you are playing, just leave them folded back for more comfort in playing..but when called for you have the added tools in your toolbox ready to use..just my 2 cents |
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 19 Aug 2007 2:40 pm
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| A few years ago there was some discussion about forward moving knee-levers. I never understood how that was supposed to work. I guess if you rotated to the right, your left knee would move forward. That would take pretty talented arse-cheeks! |
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Bill Mayville
From:
Las Vegas Nevada * R.I.P.
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Posted 19 Aug 2007 9:07 pm fifth pedal
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Hi Phil
You don't ever have to follow along with the fifth pedal.Usually vertical, and is not to smooth while learning.
During a seminar along time agao,Jeff Newman had this to say about the vertical.He did not knock it
but said it was not the place to put it for some.
He suggested putting it on the RKL.It can't get any smoother than that.It does work for me,and most that come into the studio try it and make the change.
Not all but most.
Bill Mayville
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 19 Aug 2007 9:50 pm
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You have to use your private parts for the fifth lever, which is not much talked about...   It's a secret known only to steelers  |
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Micky Byrne
From:
United Kingdom (deceased)
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Posted 20 Aug 2007 1:23 am Re: Five knees?
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Hi Phil, I think I know what you're at when you say each of your 2 knee levers move "both" ways. One direction is for folding to shut the case lid. Move each lever in the direction where you feel the resistance of the spring on the changer unit on the right hand side of your steel. That is the direction that lever has to be moved to make the note/notes alter. Most now have 5 knee levers, but many have more, usually on double nack guitars.
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Phil Halton
From:
Holyoke, Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 20 Aug 2007 7:23 am Re: Five knees?
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Hi Mickey, Actually, I was making a joking reference to the knees on my legs--not on my steel. You know, I've got two knees and two feet and two legs... Couldn't figure out how two knees could work 5 levers. I'm starting to understand now why I bombed in comedy.
[quote="Micky Byrne"]Hi Phil, I think I know what you're at when you say each of your 2 knee levers move "both" ways. One direction is for folding to shut the case lid. Move each lever in the direction where you feel the resistance of the spring on the changer unit on the right hand side of your steel. That is the direction that lever has to be moved to make the note/notes alter. Most now have 5 knee levers, but many have more, usually on double nack guitars.
Micky Byrne United Kingdom[/quote]
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A. Roncetti
From:
Toronto,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 20 Aug 2007 8:27 am
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| Alan F. Brookes wrote: |
| You have to use your private parts for the fifth lever, which is not much talked about... It's a secret known only to steelers |
So how would that work for a female player. On second thought,don't answer that!  |
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Micky Byrne
From:
United Kingdom (deceased)
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Posted 20 Aug 2007 9:59 am Re: Five knees?
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Hi Phil, not to worry Lol. Guess we all failed to see the comical input from you  .... hope now you know how to work the 5th lever should you have one installed. You go "upwards" Lol
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Colin Goss
From:
St.Brelade, Island of Jersey, Channel Islands, UK
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Posted 22 Aug 2007 5:56 am
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Regarding Alan's post above.
If our lead singer is feeling mischievous he explains a little about the pedal steel - "played with both hands, knees, feet ..... in fact there's only one part of the body he doesn't use ......... his head"
So it's not only known to steelers
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 22 Aug 2007 2:33 pm
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| what irks me is that tommy white only uses 4 knee levers on e-9 and plays better than most people ever will! |
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 22 Aug 2007 2:38 pm
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| A. Roncetti wrote: |
| So how would that work for a female player? On second thoughts, don't answer that! |
Have you noticed that Cindy Cashdollar doesn't use knee levers ? |
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Colby Tipton
From:
Crosby, Texas, USA
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Posted 22 Aug 2007 4:00 pm
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Alan,
She has got after me about the pink steel guitar, don't start with her, I think she bites back.
I have 7 knees on one of my guitars.
I use 2 most of the time, I can do most anything I need with them. |
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Paul Redmond
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 26 Aug 2007 1:55 am
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With the E to F raise and the B to C# pedal along with the G# to A pedal, most music ever written can be played. The drop from E to D# is an added plus, but not necessary. The 'F' lever will take its place when needed. (A la Lloyd Green).
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Paul Redmond
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 26 Aug 2007 1:59 am
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I humbly admit to having 7 KL's on most of my guitars. Yeah, I love 'em. But they're there for my convenience, not out of necessity.
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 26 Aug 2007 4:45 pm
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| Colby Tipton wrote: |
Alan,
She has got after me about the pink steel guitar. Don't start with her, I think she bites back.
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She doesn't like pink steel guitars ? |
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