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Topic: buddy cage new p.s.g |
Paul Wade
From:
mundelein,ill
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Posted 3 Aug 2007 8:21 am |
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Was talking to don at scottys music and he told me he was working on buddy cage's new excel superb 14 strings 10 pedal s and 13 knee levers 
that is hack of a pedal steel!! 
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 3 Aug 2007 3:29 pm
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..especially if you have four legs and eight knees !
I imagine a trained octopus with a specially-made steel could pull off some incredible riffs.  |
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Cliff Kane
From:
the late great golden state
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Posted 3 Aug 2007 3:53 pm
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| Very interesting! I thought he was a D-12 player; even back in the 1970's, wasn't he playing a D-12 push-pull Emmons? So, do you know if he's going with a universal tuning/set-up, or is this a 14 string extended E9 tuning/set-up? Wow, what would a 14 string extended E9 be like, anyway? How low can you go? |
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Jim Peters
From:
St. Louis, Missouri, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 3 Aug 2007 4:08 pm
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I was lucky enough to see this new guitar, it is an engineering marvel! Very busy underneath. Maybe Scotty's can post some pics? 
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 3 Aug 2007 4:45 pm
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| Where does one put 13 KLs? |
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Ron !
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Posted 3 Aug 2007 4:55 pm
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| 4-8 under the steel and the rest in a spare box I think. |
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Charles Curtis
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Posted 4 Aug 2007 5:24 am
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| I think that Buddy is one of the best ever!! |
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Larry Strawn
From:
Golden Valley, Arizona, R.I.P.
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Posted 4 Aug 2007 5:42 am
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Just think what kind of tuning debate we can get started with that one!!  
Larry
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 4 Aug 2007 11:50 am
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| When I talked with Buddy a couple of years ago, he was playing a D10, and not a fan of the universal. So I'm guessing it is an extended E9. |
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JB Arnold
From:
Longmont,Co,USA (deceased)
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Posted 4 Aug 2007 1:22 pm
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Nope, it's a universal. They are trying to coordinate delivery now. Buddy has always played a D-12 actually, at least the last few years, but was finally convinced by experience and Scotty as well as others that the engineering for all those changes he likes would work better on a universal. He'd just resisited it because he'll be having to rethink some of his stuff, but I imagine that wil only take a couple of days-he's always been a very instinctive player. He's also been known to insist he's not a C6th player, but I have plenty of evidence to the contrary, so he'd need that on there somewhere.
I think he's expecting delivery soon, and when I hear from him I'll post how it's going. He's actually due out here in a couple of weeks.
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Bernie Gonyea
From:
Sherman Tx. 75092 ,U.S.A. (deceased)
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Posted 5 Aug 2007 3:58 pm Buddy Cage's New P.S.G.
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Wow, folks, I didn't realize that Buddy was an Octopus; I would certainly love to hear him play this machine; I agree that we should ask Scotty to post us a few pics of this beauty; Would you do this for your fellow Forumites, Scotty?
What group does Buddy work with now? Don't know if the NROPS are still in the music business.Thank you all..Bernie 
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JB Arnold
From:
Longmont,Co,USA (deceased)
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Posted 5 Aug 2007 5:05 pm
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The New Riders are going strong and touring as we speak. Go to www.thenewriders.com for their schedule. Dawson is retired, but they are playing his entire catalog. Lineup is originals David Nelson and Buddy, then Johnny Markowski on drums, Ron Penque on Bass, and Michael Falzarano on Rhythym Guitar. I've seen them several times and they sound great. They are picking up a younger following and starting to play larger venues than the traditional jam halls they were working in.
In fact, they are in Rochester on August 9th! I don't know if that's close to you, but there's a chance that he may have taken delivery and you can be one of the first to hear it played in person!
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Jimmy Duvall
From:
Farmington,New York, USA
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Posted 6 Aug 2007 8:02 pm
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Thanks for the note .I've got the nite off and I'm 30 miles from there .Buddy was having mechanical problems the last time I saw him in Rochester .
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Ernest Cawby
From:
Lake City, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Aug 2007 3:59 am hi
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Hi Jimmy have not heard from youy in a while. How is Amzoil going. What is happening up there. Are you still with Ghost Riders??? When are coming back this way? How is the new girl friend? We miss you.
ernie |
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Jeremy Threlfall
From:
now in Western Australia
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Posted 7 Aug 2007 3:14 pm
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That keyless S10 on Scotty's web site looks pretty swish to me.
I'm starting to get the black thing now ....
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Chris Bauer
From:
Nashville, TN USA
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Posted 7 Aug 2007 4:56 pm
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I suspect that "swish" means something a tad different in Tasmania than it usually does here in the states. Er, just a guess...
But then, maybe not!  |
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Jeremy Threlfall
From:
now in Western Australia
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Posted 7 Aug 2007 5:58 pm
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how about "flash"? It looks pretty flash.
25 1/2 inch scale tho' - I don't know whether thats a good or a bad thing. |
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Chris Bauer
From:
Nashville, TN USA
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Posted 7 Aug 2007 6:40 pm
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I agree on all counts, Jeremy.
(And, over here, you'll probably be better off asking the rednecks about whether of not they prefer one scale over another rather than whether or not they prefer swish.)  |
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David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
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Don E. Curtis
From:
St Louis, Missouri, USA (deceased)
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Posted 8 Aug 2007 11:59 am engineering marvel
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Actually, it has more than 13 knees as it has pendulum levers that work in both directions, put your Left Leg on the right side and it’s E9, then put your Left Leg on the other side, in the center, and it goes left and it’s B6. Therefore, it is an equivalent of 18 KNEES! 10 Pedals, 14 Strings with two lower strings. Plus it has most all of the standard changes on an "Emmons" setup E9, and also the stock C6/B6 changes with plenty of other 'bells & whistles' thrown in. The guitar is rather short and I wasn't able to get under very well without tilting it way forward.
But there are "Crawford Clusters" everywhere, E9 Left Leg, B6 Left Leg Center, and including staggered and vertical knees on the Right Leg as well. It is the Excel "SUPERB" model which features the Excel 25 1/2" Scale, the longest on the market, plus it has the Superb 5 raise & 5 lower Changer, the most capacity on the market. Moreover, there not all just stacked raise and lower, they alternate, up and down. (A couple raise, couple lower, couple raise, couple lower). It has the Lock Lever "gearshift".
It has anti-detuning comps on the "A B C" pedals activated under the guitar independently as well as the anti-cabinet drop device accessible though a slot in the endplate. It is keyless of course with the new "Fingertip" tuning Keyless Headstock; you can put the hex key in it or use your fingers or both. The Ball Ends of the strings anchor at the Headstock and attach with hex cap screws at the Changer Finger.
Another major innovation by MR. MITSUO FUJII is that on the 'all pull' guitar, the knees going in the opposite direction are converted to "Pulling" by inverting the Bell Cranks to the other side of the pull rod and then it pulls. So he is also able to put two Verticals on one leg. Genius!
Plus the Changer Fingers themselves are not cam shaped and whereas the raises rotate on an axle, the lowers actually travel forward linearly.
We looked over this guitar for hours and days and I was glad to have others including Jim Peters and Dave Munson to help me try to sort it all out. You should see the Copedant! WOW!!
I’m not even qualified enough to effectively evaluate a guitar of this mechanical magnitude…
Mitsuo must be a ‘rocket scientist’ to say the least.
I must add that several years ago Mr. Fujii simply amazed me just as much when he built a double neck guitar with 3 forward working Knee Levers, and although this was not unheard of at the time it was still indeed a brilliant work of design engineering, just like Buddy Cage’s is.
Don’t know what else to say…I certainly hope I’m not out of line here or misleading in any way.
It is rather difficult for me to describe in words the most advanced guitar I have ever seen. I feel very fortunate to have had this opportunity.
I look forward to seeing Mr. Fujii in person at the upcoming 36 Annual International Steel Guitar Convention and congratulating him in person.
My Hat’s Off to EXCEL and the FUZZY Steel Company!
Sincerely,
Don E. Curtis
Scotty’s Music Inc. |
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Frank Parish
From:
Nashville,Tn. USA
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Posted 8 Aug 2007 12:51 pm
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Don,
That's extremely impressive to say the least. It makes you think of the possibilities. What kind of p-ups does it have and have you had a chance to hear it or play it? What about the tone? I'm trying to think if there's anybody out here playing an Excel with a country artist? |
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Don E. Curtis
From:
St Louis, Missouri, USA (deceased)
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Posted 8 Aug 2007 2:42 pm
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It has a custom wound single coil 14 pole piece Excel Pickup, I forgot to mention the, "idler" cross shafts where each half rotates independently. Plus it has the tone control, that's the chrome knob, the black knob is the tuning wrench stuck down in its holder along with another hex key. And the complete tool kit comes in the case.
Seeing these pictures brought back some of my rapidly failing memory...
Hope Buddy doesn't mind us posting these pix:
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 8 Aug 2007 3:03 pm
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Man, when Buddy decides to switch to a uni, he sure does it in a big way. My problem is that I still have only two knees. And as Mr. Bovine once said, "There are only so many ways I can twitch my butt," or something like that. So it's hard for me to envision how all that is used. It will be interesting to hear what effect this has on Buddy's playing  |
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David Munson
From:
St. Louis, Missouri, USA
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Posted 8 Aug 2007 7:39 pm The color is darker purple than the photos
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The color is much better than the camera was able to capture.
Pretty neat machine. Plays like a dream....
I really like the string spacing as it is a little wider than my mid 90's excel U-12. Sounds great even with the amp in the other room. The sustain was so long that it was still ringing as the UPS truck left the loading dock.
Great guitar.... very complicated. |
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Cliff Kane
From:
the late great golden state
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Posted 8 Aug 2007 8:27 pm
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| Hmmm....periwinkle. |
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