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Brian LeBlanc


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Falls Church, Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jul 2007 2:35 pm    
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What's some good material to get going on Hawaiian?

- Normally play Classic Country on E9 Shobud

- started on a Ohau ToneMaster C6 about 4 months ago

- have a "Hawaiian Show" gig in September !

- (hawaiian chic says I sound too country! Wink
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Ray Montee


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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
Post  Posted 6 Jul 2007 4:33 pm     Congratulations!
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Tell me, are you playing Hawaiian signature sounds, tone and the like, or are you merely playing country licks/sounds on a different g'tar?

There is a BIG DIFFERENCE in what you play; the WAY you play it; and, the tone of what you're playing?

So, what's the story?
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Brian LeBlanc


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Falls Church, Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 8 Jul 2007 10:40 am     Same licks different guitar...
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Same licks different guitar...

Thats it!

- doing C6 lap about 5 months
- & happy if I hit the right cords!
- best road/course to get from A to B?
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Ray Montee


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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
Post  Posted 8 Jul 2007 11:55 am     COUNTRY LICKS in a Hula Band................
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You can bank on what I'm about to tell you. I'm no expert on ANYTHING, but.......I might have some suggestions and I'm sure that Jeff Au Hoy, Keoki and many others can provide you with even far greater insight.
COUNTRY LICKS and pedal sounds IMHO will never go over in a Hawaiian group. There are traditional do's and don'ts in Hawaiian music, just as there are in Blue Grass, Blues, Olde Country and Folk Music.
You MUST LEARN WHAT THESE SOUNDS are, or you're likely to fall on your face. Those who know will quiety laugh at you while the majority may not even have a clue as to what you're doing. But the group leader might be very well versed on what they're after....
I'd try and locate JERRY BYRD's olde Nani Hawaii with Danny Ku uhana. Those are rich sounds of the islands. There are some neat sounds in Nedward Ka'apana's "Second Time Around" and "His Own Man" CD's. Another is Bill Lincoln's CD with "A Kaka Falls" and "Mom" and other great tunes.
At least here, you can get an idea of what sounds really great and NOT HOLLYWOOD or NASHVILLE.
Good Luck to you! Play your heart out.
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Todd Weger


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Safety Harbor, FLAUSA
Post  Posted 8 Jul 2007 8:05 pm     too country
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Yeah, Ray's right. Every genre has it's own idioms and vocabulary that give it it's identifiable sound. Give a lap steel (in the same tuning) to a Hawaiian, country, and delta blues player, and you'll get three very different sounds from the same instrument. They may all be speaking the 'universal' language, but they'll all have different words for the same thing, and speak with very different accents and rhythms.

I knew a guy who played dobro who played on a Hawaiian CD a few years ago. When I put it on, I had to basically shut it off right away. His intonation and phrases were OK, but were better suited for Hee Haw -- not Hawaiian. Worse, instead of just sounding stylistically incorrect, it almost sounded like he was mocking Hawaiian steel (which I'm pretty sure he wasn't -- just didn't know any better).

I am certainly no expert by any stretch, but yeah, get ahold of some David "Feet" Rodgers, Billy Hew Len, Barney Isaacs, Jules Ah See, David Keli'i, Andy Iona, Dick and Lani McIntire, Sol Ho'opi'i, etc. You'll learn a ton.

Good luck!
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