George L Cable Question

Michael Pierce · From: Madison, CT

As part of "ToneQuest '07", I'm considering purchasing a roll of George L .255 cable to create my own instrument and effects cables. Was wondering what the difference was between a "stretch" end and a "straight" end? (The George L site doesn't explain.) Also, do most folks go with the nickel hardware (versus the brass or gold)? Thanks, mp

Mike Kowalik · From: San Antonio,Texas

I use George L cables and like them very much.....always used the .155 diameter....when rolled up takes less room in my seat.The stretch end plugs are longer on the cable end to make it easier to remove from guitars with a recessed input...such as a Stratocaster.Through the years I've used brass,nickel, and gold plugs and the only differences I have found are that brass is the cheapest and gold the most expensive and the brass plugs tarnish over time while the nickel and gold retain their shine.

Hope this helps !!

Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

I also use the smaller diameter cable and as noted does not take up as much room in my seat. I use the standard length plugs, since nothing in my steel or effects need the extended length plugs. I don't like the right angle plugs - always have problems with them and I'm an electronics "techie".

There is no difference in the two sizes of cables as both have the same low capacitance.

The smaller diameter cable (original cable) is what was used in the Guitar Player comparison test several years ago that George L's came out #1.

Dave Diehl · From: Mechanicsville, MD, USA

Mike, I use all "Extended" plugs now. They are a bit longer and are knurled on the back end which makes pulling it out a bit easier. Other than that, I don't see any difference between the regular and the extended. Not saying there isn't any.

Don Discher · From: Sault Ste Marie,Ontario,Canada

I used the .255 and wished ever since that i'd used the .155. The heavier cable has a memory and after you roll it up and pack it away, the next time you use it,it has a tendency to coil up.That's only my experience with it.

Mike Fried · From: Nashville, TN, USA

I've used the smaller diameter cable and (nickel plated) plugs for years. I only keep a thicker cable for use where it's likely to be stepped on or tripped over. As for the plugs, I find the knurled "stretch" plug to be easier to grab than the standard length, and the added length provides a tad more stress relief for the cable. I used to have problems with the right-angle plugs until I started using the plastic caps on them, which prevent the screw-on caps from coming loose. I do find it helpful to "renew" the connections every year or so by reinserting or rotating the cables in the plugs (this wipes off the oxidation formed by the contact of dissimilar metals - the main problem with solderless audo connectors).
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Ron Randall · From: Dallas, Texas, USA

I too, use the smaller diameter. I have for years now and have never had one damaged. Easier to use when setting up tearing down. Did you notice the colors available? Personally, I like that. I use red for all my stuff, and no body picks it up by mistake, and they seem to notice it on the floor and don't step on it. I like the new blue and white cable,too.

IF I had a permanent installation in a humid/coastal environment I might go gold. IF things get plugged and unplugged corrosion is not a problem. Chrome is plenty good for me.

Michael Pierce · From: Madison, CT

Thank you, gentlemen. Consensus seems to be narrow guague (.155) with the nickel plated ends, slight preference for stretch over straight ends. Got it. Thanks again. mp

Eric West · From: Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.

Also a couple of things. The 90degree ends are handy for things that might get stepped on or for going into amps so if they get stepped on they won't break or damage the input as easily. Especially the newer plastic inputs. They all can use a little dab of red loctite to keep them screwed in. Blue for the faint of heart.

Surgical tubing slid over them with lubrication and let to set makes them a little more secure. They have covers, which come in different colors, but they're a couple bucks apiece. Not a lot.

I found that red flourescent plastic tape cut in strips and wrapped around the cables coded with 1 2 3 etc bands in several places makes them easier to identify.

Smile

EJL

Paddy Long · From: Christchurch, New Zealand

Another vote for the narrow .155 Red cable. I use the standard nickel straights, and the 90 deg jobs. The 90 degree plugs are very useful in cabling my rack, very tidy and of course they aren't likely to be removed so there is minimal stress on them. My rack has practically no hum at all because of the high quality cables.

Michael Pierce · From: Madison, CT

Last question: where do most people buy their George L cables/hardware... directly from the George L website? On e-bay? thanks, mp

Mike Fried · From: Nashville, TN, USA

There are many dealers who handle George L products, at varying discounts. It can pay to look around, especially if you're planning on buying a lot of cable stuff.
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Michael Haselman · From: St. Paul

I got mine from www.macdaddymusic.com. .99 a foot for 155. He has an Ebay store or the site. Also, Hook Moore had a great tip on the last George L thread. Use blue Loctite on the right angle plugs. I put some on all mine, just in case, though I haven't had a problem with them yet.
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Paddy Long · From: Christchurch, New Zealand

Michael I get my stuff directly from their website, although I did grab some more cable from their booth at the Dallas show last year.

Hook Moore · From: South Charleston,West Virginia

Good job Michael Smile

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