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Topic: Steel Pedal Guitars?? |
Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 13 Jun 2007 9:47 pm |
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Well, we've all heard our uninitiated friends refer to our beloved instrument as a "Steel Pedal" Guitar, and I usually correct them gently but firmly ("Uh, you mean 'Pedal Steel' Guitar").
Well! NOW, I find out that even LEO FENDER called it a "Steel Pedal" Guitar! Check out these two PATENTS!!!
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT3136198
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT3352188
What are we to make of this unwelcome news?! |
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Dave Mudgett
From:
Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 13 Jun 2007 9:55 pm
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Well, we could make like ostriches and simply refuse to accept its existence. I don't think this would be a big stretch.  |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 13 Jun 2007 9:57 pm
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| My plan exactly! |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 13 Jun 2007 11:26 pm
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Jim,I just did some Steel Pedal session work for a bunch of young guys in their mid-twenties and all of them,and their engineer referred to it as Cool Lap Steel or just Lap.
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Brett Day
From:
Pickens, SC
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 12:15 am
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Boxcar Willie was doin' a show in Branson one time and he called it a Hawaiian pedal electric steel guitar.
Brett |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 3:43 am
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I say these documents are forgeries, placed there by members of the international banjo conspiracy (who stole the originals which were of course, correct,) in an effort to demoralize and destroy us.
THIS IS WAR!!!
I say we retaliate by changing the letter j to a g. From now on, their instrument is spelled BANGO.
It is the duty of every pedal steel guitarist not just to use this new spelling at all times, but to retroactively change all existing written references to that instrument.
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Mike Wheeler
From:
Delaware, Ohio, USA
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 4:01 am
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Best regards,
Mike |
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Howard Tate
From:
Leesville, Louisiana, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 5:00 am
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| And all the times Jennings called it a "banger" I thought he was misspelling it. Guess he's just smarter then me. |
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Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 5:05 am
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Hear hear! BANGO is much more descriptive of the sound it makes when properly weilded.
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 5:25 am
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Hehe - like "perfect pitch" is hitting the dumpster with the "bango" on the first throw...
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Duane Reese
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 7:03 am
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"Steel Pedal" Guitar, eh? Hmm... Eh, oh well.
Frankly I don't even like talking about my instrument with the general public. It always feels like opening a can of worms that becomes too confusing and time consuming for their liking or mine. |
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Clyde Mattocks
From:
Kinston, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 7:12 am
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When you play for spite, a bango is the ultimate weapon! How can you tell which steel players also
play bango? We're the ones who are working! |
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Charles Davidson
From:
Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 7:12 am
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Would anyone know where the term [AXE]referring to an instrument come from? Could it have anything to do with [chops]?
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Bo Borland
From:
South Jersey -
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 7:19 am
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I wanna be like Mike..
I hear Bangers repel skeeters real good!
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Rittenberry SD10 , Derby D-10, Quilter TT12, Peavey Session 400 w/ JBL, NV112, Fender Blues Jr. , 1974 Dobro 60N squareneck, Rickenbacher NS lapsteel, 1973 Telecaster Thinline, 1979 blonde/black Frankenstrat
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 7:44 am
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| Charles, there actually was a thread on the previous Forum server about the term "axe". You could try a search on that. |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 9:10 am
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| I'm with Duane ...... |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 9:18 am
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| Well! NOW, I find out that even LEO FENDER called it a "Steel Pedal" Guitar! |
That's not hard to understand, as the pedals on the original Fender 1000 and 400 were made of (die-stamped) steel! |
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 9:47 am
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B@njo players have no sense of humor? Last week at our local Farmer's Market I walked out to the parking lot to watch the bluegrass jams and saw a group with a B@njo in it. I said to my wife in a loud voice "Look Maw, he's playin' a snare drum with a neck on it" to which I got a very cold and icy stare from him but a lot of laughs from the others, Oh well........JH in Va.
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Al Marcus
From:
Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 10:41 am
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I have had Horn men say to me "Bring your Axe" to the jam session. As Jim says.
Or some called it "Harp". ..Oh Yeah, "Long ago and far away".al.
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Tim Marcus
From:
San Francisco, CA
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 10:48 am
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| at least "Steel Pedal" is a step in the right direction - what really drives me nuts is when people call it "Slide" |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 11:35 am
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| I always thought "chops" was a horn players' term that comes from the fact that they play with their mouths or "choppers." |
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Rainer Hackstaette
From:
Bohmte, Germany
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 11:53 am Re: Steel Pedal Guitars??
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| Jim Cohen wrote: |
| ... LEO FENDER called it a "Steel Pedal" Guitar! |
It doesn't really surprise me, considering the fact that he also had the vibrato/tremolo thing backwards.
Leo was undoubtably a genious in many fields. Musical terminology wasn't one of them. So what?
VERY respectfully,
Rainer |
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Stephen Dorocke
From:
Tres Piedras, New Mexico
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 8:34 pm
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I'm talking to a guy in a music store, he says, "Waddya Play?"-- I say, "a few things, Pedal Steel, etc..." he says, "I love lap slide!"  |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 8:45 pm
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Yeah, well I love 'lap slide' too, but only when I'm not busy playing music...  |
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Stephen Dorocke
From:
Tres Piedras, New Mexico
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Posted 14 Jun 2007 8:50 pm
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| I was gonna say something like that, but I figured I'd toss it out and let someone else say it............. |
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